Raptors receive 5-6 offers for Ford
Old 06-03-2008, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Toronto Trades:
TJ Ford
Garbo (expiring)
Bargnani
Graham (expiring)
Baston (expiring)
Moon

Toronto Recieves:
7th Pick
Magette
Tim Thomas

alot of clippers fans support this deal and like it leaves the Raptors with

Calderon/Roko
Maggette/Parker/Walker(17)
Alexander(7)/Kapono/Graham
Bosh/Thomas/Hump
Rasho/FA(Diop, Obryant)/Baston

I picked alexander at 7 because hes been working out like crazy, he had the highest bench, higher than beasly and dorsey, ran the second fastest sprint i think hed be perfect for us
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Old 06-03-2008, 08:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok, you gotta tell me....why Tim Thomas? Who's our back up Point guard? And Alexander shouldn't be starting on a playoff bound team, hell, really no rookie (there are exceptions) should be.
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Old 06-03-2008, 08:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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when people are praying for deals like this, i really hope there is no god
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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omg lmao you feel this deal is bad? how what bad contract do we really take. we keep our pick, move up 10 places to get alexander/danilo. Get a solid starter in maggette and thomas average 12.5 points and off the bench could provide major help if Bosh is in foul trouble we basically get two 15-20+ guys in danilo(or alexander) and maggette and get Calderon to take more minutes.

Roko is our backup point and we keep rasho+parker expiring its not a bad deal?

Calderon/roko/Armstrong(vet minimum)
Parker/Kapono/Batum
Maggette/Alexander
Bosh/Thomas/Hump
Rasho/FA(MLE, Diop)
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I dont think is that bad of a deal, but I dont like it cause I cant stand Maggete. I really doubt it will happend cause I doubt Bargs is going anywhere.

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Old 06-03-2008, 10:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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it's a horrible deal - you have to understand that outside a few toronto fans, most of the nba world has a much much better view of Bargnani. Bargnani alone would get you a #7 pick in a draft like this (unless for some obscure reason you think that at #7 you would get a future star), and magette is not even close to a hot ticket, especially that he thinks he's a superstar and will probably ask for 10 million + for his next contract ...
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I pray a deal of

Toronto Trades:
TJ Ford
Garbo (expiring)
Bargnani
Graham (expiring)
Baston (expiring)
Moon

Toronto Recieves:
7th Pick
Magette
Tim Thomas

alot of clippers fans support this deal and like it leaves the Raptors with

Calderon/Roko
Maggette/Parker/Walker(17)
Alexander(7)/Kapono/Graham
Bosh/Thomas/Hump
Rasho/FA(Diop, Obryant)/Baston

I picked alexander at 7 because hes been working out like crazy, he had the highest bench, higher than beasly and dorsey, ran the second fastest sprint i think hed be perfect for us
If they then flipped the 7th pick for a top five and tried to get Jerryd Bayless,than i would think it may work.But this trade will not happen because Bargnani isn't going anywhere.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
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But this trade will not happen because Bargnani isn't going anywhere.
How unfortunate for us. :mad:
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How unfortunate for us. :mad:
To be honest,i don't want him to go anywhere unless it's a no brainer. I want to see what happens next season after he spends the summer working out w/trainer and going to big man camp.If he doesn't get better next season especially with his rebounding.After seeing what he did in his first season and what he's capable of i'm not going to right him off yet. I know i have more patience than that.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well, I'm only one of the few that has lost faith in Andrea, so you've got alot of supporters here jeff because most haven't given up on Andrea yet either.

I just don't see what everyone else sees, but I've been known to be wrong from time to time. I was also the one that said that Aldridge was going to be a bust.
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Well, I'm only one of the few that has lost faith in Andrea, so you've got alot of supporters here jeff because most haven't given up on Andrea yet either.

I just don't see what everyone else sees, but I've been known to be wrong from time to time. I was also the one that said that Aldridge was going to be a bust.
I just think that he had a very good first season. Then last season he had injury porblems and was yanked on and off the bench all season and lost his confidence early and never regained it.I recall Dallas fans were saying Nowitzki should possibly be traded after his second season. He had alot of problems realy in his career. I'm not saying Andrea is as good as Dirk but people are often too quick to want a trade these days.Trade talks are fun to discuss and everybody always looks for the next best thing the minute expectations are not met.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Why do you fellas, self announced experts that you all are, wanna even consider trading away a 7 foot player, who is 22, filled to the rim with talent, and the owner of a decent personality, simply because he had a bad season, one that he spent either hurt or sick for the entirety???

You're prime examples of a very OCD, Now Now society. And it ain't pretty.

There isn't a guy on here that would say Bargnani played well this year, but only guys with sense seem to understand that you simply cannot afford to trade him away and have him rebound into the player he is capable of being. You can't. It makes zero tactical or business sense.

The only way he goes, is for a shot at another top three pick, or for an established and very effective star.
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:08 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Just another case of fans overvaluing one of our players SJ. Trading Bargnani will catch us nothing of importance in return. Your kidding youself if you think we could acquire a Top 3 pick or an established & effective star for Andrea.

Teams didn't know what to expect from Andrea in his rookie season but were able to adapt last season. They will continue to do so, because from what we saw last season from Bargnani he basically made no improvements at all with the exception of his post defense which was still to be desired. Predictable as hell on offense, with again no game in the post. That leads me to think he struggles to make changes & adapt to help improve his own game.

I don't consider myself a "self announced expert", but I will call it as I see it. And from what I saw last season was a player that regressed significantly unfortunatley.
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Why is everyone so gung ho on Maggette? He only has one more year on his contract, you know. Garbo, Graham and Baston are all potentially attractive contracts because they expire at the end of next season. Moon makes 750K, is one of our best - if not best defender, plus giving away Bargnani for a guy who might only be here 1 year, a malcontent in Thomas. The only real person of value is the 7th pick. So essentially, you wanna trade a very good point guard, 3 expirings, a potentially very solid player in Bargnani, and an emerging talent in Moon for the 7th pick? Yuck.
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lol u know what

if we get maggete it would piss alot of people off especially in this forum...who believe are biggest problems where defence and rebounding

ummm...picking up maggete wont fix any of those problems....

i think everyone who wants to pick up maggz is a dumb ass and doesnt know anything about Raptors basketball and believes ppg means everything...
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Found this interesting with Chad Ford and his v. 3.0 mock draft - regarding what the Pacers do with their pick..

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Ford, Rasho and Graham works for O'Neal in terms of salary. The Pacers get their PG, expirings, plus it opens it up so that the Pacers grab a bigman in the draft. And the Graham brothers re-unite! Whaddya think, fellas?
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WOW .... Jermaine and Bosh front court. That would be sick.
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i dont like it...
O'neal is washed up... and his health is a HUMUNGUS concern.
the guy played like 40 games last season... his knees are messed. if he were healthy, i'd do this in a second, but he's not even close to healthy. its too risky IMO.
plus, O'neal is a PF, he cant bang with the Centers in this league anymore... we'd force him to play C and it wouldnt make sense.
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O'Neal at the same time is bigger than Bosh - he weighs about 250. Now when you think about this league, how many real centres does he go up against that weighs > 250?
His contract also expires in time for the bumper-crop FAs of 2010.
His injury situation is a concern, like INSIDER pointed out, but not a lot of teams would be able to compete with a front-court that consisted of Bosh-O'Neal-Moon. O'Neal does bring rebounding and toughness to the table - plus a secondary scorer.
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Found this interesting with Chad Ford and his v. 3.0 mock draft - regarding what the Pacers do with their pick..



Ford, Rasho and Graham works for O'Neal in terms of salary. The Pacers get their PG, expirings, plus it opens it up so that the Pacers grab a bigman in the draft. And the Graham brothers re-unite! Whaddya think, fellas?

O'neil sucks ass IMO! He can score but he's not an impact guy. He's soft and tends to disappear in crunch time!And word is he's not much of a team player.Plus he's injury prone.
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