Raptors not F@$*# around

jeffb · 07-02-2009, 11:56 AM

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Give Bryan Colangelo and the Toronto Raptors franchise some credit - after a miserably disappointing 2008-’09 season, they appear determined to shake up and improve their roster by any means necessary, even if it means potentially taking on huge free agent contracts and/or dealing Chris Bosh.

Of all the NBA teams in the free agent market, it seems like the Raptors are the most active. A scan of this morning’s news and rumors has them reportedly preparing a 5-year, $60 million free agent offer to Hedo Turkoglu - a full $10 million more than what the Portland Trail Blazers supposedly put together for the same number of years.

It appears that whichever team loses out on Turkoglu will then be in prime position to sign Trevor Ariza for something in the mid-$30-$40 million range. Obviously, Ariza isn’t quite Hedo, but if he can consistently provide the energy, defense, and scoring pop that he did for the Lakers in the playoffs, he would be a huge asset for either team.

The Raptors were also allegedly in the mix to sign Charlie Villanueva, but now that he’s been wrapped up by Detroit, Toronto is reportedly interested in trying to steal Linas Kleiza. Linas is one of the most underrated free agents in this year’s pool and would be perfect in Toronto. He can shoot, play D, and brings scrap and toughness to the table - qualities all desperately needed in Toronto. It’s doubtful that Denver will let Kleiza go, but if Toronto makes an offer Denver can’t match, there’s not much the Nuggets can do about it.

Finally, it’s being reported this morning that the Raps are considering making an $8-$10 million offer to restricted free agent David Lee. If they’re suddenly willing to pay that kind of money for another forward, you have to think that something may be on the horizon with Chris Bosh. A trade in the works? Or just no plans to re-sign him at the end of next season?

No matter how this plays out for Toronto, if you’re a Raptors fan, you have to be pleased that your squad is in it to win it and not just floating along like a lot of other teams, content to be mediocre.

Update: Something's wrong with the link for some reason but i put up the whole article.

I like hearing this. BC is gonna improve this team.

A00715890 · 07-02-2009, 12:01 PM

link not working...but anyways thats what i like to hear....

n30tokyo · 07-02-2009, 12:02 PM

does that mean going over the cap?

MangoKidHoops · 07-02-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by n30tokyo

does that mean going over the cap?

Nope. I can't see MLSE approving of that.

**zachus** · 07-02-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by n30tokyo

does that mean going over the cap?

Maybe if we're in contention at the end of the year, top half of the East maybe. As of right now I wouldn't say so.

jeffb · 07-02-2009, 12:08 PM

Can we not go over the luxury tax and use the 3Mil from last years trade (Marion) to pay it.

A00715890 · 07-02-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

Can we not go over the luxury tax and use the 3Mil from last years trade (Marion) to pay it.

i dont think you can use that money towards cap....

B-RAD · 07-02-2009, 01:24 PM

you can't and that is uber

all together god it makes me so angry you can't do anything involving improving your team with that money. you can just spend it on, strippers,hookers,suits,limo rides,etc. god i want to kick david stern in his

saggy

komot · 07-02-2009, 06:12 PM

as long as we have Bosh we won't win.

Kuzzy · 07-02-2009, 06:16 PM

couldnt agree with you more komot

**'trane** · 07-02-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by B-RAD

you can't and that is uber

all together god it makes me so angry you can't do anything involving improving your team with that money. you can just spend it on, strippers,hookers,suits,limo rides,etc. god i want to kick david stern in his

saggy

this kind of shit really irritates me. if you were allowed to use that money for players and team improvements, then everyone would do it and it wouldn't give us any advantage anyways... the trick is knowing the rules and being creative with them, not complaining that cash that any team could acquire would help us in the pursuit of free agents that those other teams would also be trying to get.

the rules are there to level the playing field and to stop rich teams from accumulating too many assets. and it tends to work most of the time. take a look at the other north american pro leagues. the nba is in good shape by comparison, and that's because stern has done a great job with the league rules and the cba. he's not perfect, far from it, but compared to baseball and hockey, the nba is well managed, and it's rules like this that keep it that way. enough with the short-sighted bitching already.

B-RAD · 07-02-2009, 06:42 PM

enough with you bitchin about us bitchin. hypocrite

you make sense. but, i still don't like it.

TRADE BOSH!!

unless this iron man training that he is reportedly doing works trade him when the season begins.

**'trane** · 07-02-2009, 06:48 PM

at least there's an argument behind my bitching. trying thinking before you post once in a while and i won't need to...

xI_kaptain_Ix · 07-02-2009, 06:56 PM

only problem i have is with the refs... how could you properly ref a game if you favor star players?? just makes no sense, aside from gretzky it doesn't happen in hockey... but i know, hockey has their problems as well. On a side note, I think we should be pleased to have a GM like Colangelo, he's determined to show what he can do with a team, I don't know about you but I was stoked when we picked up J-O last year. That was a complete flop, we don't have a lame duck GM and that's a sweet thing.

B-RAD · 07-02-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'trane

at least there's an argument behind my bitching. trying thinking before you post once in a while and i won't need to...

ya, but then these forums would be duller with out someone like you and me making points and arguing with each other.

B-RAD · 07-02-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xI_kaptain_Ix

only problem i have is with the refs... how could you properly ref a game if you favor star players?? just makes no sense, aside from gretzky it doesn't happen in hockey... but i know, hockey has their problems as well. On a side note, I think we should be pleased to have a GM like Colangelo, he's determined to show what he can do with a team, I don't know about you but I was stoked when we picked up J-O last year. That was a complete flop, we don't have a lame duck GM and that's a sweet thing.

ya, me to i was like woah this guy is only 30 and he does have a bum knee but, he seems determined and he is a former all-star and was on the olympic team. then during the season it was like yes we're 3-0 this looks like it was a good pck up. then it was downhill from there. with everyone getting injured and stuff. bryan's job was in jeopardy at one point and he knew it was so he fired sam. made a trade at the deadline and there was some promise through the second half of the season.

now, he's looking to show he was one of the best and still is.

10gizzle · 07-02-2009, 11:25 PM

Thank god we didn't pay 10 million for Turkoglu.

Thank god we didn't pay 8 million for Ariza.

Colangelo has shown some patience and I think it was probably the smartest move. Let the desperate teams overpay...we'll have plenty to work with.

moremilk · 07-03-2009, 01:08 PM

um, ariza just got signed for 6, not 8. I think the more we wait with marion, the fewer options are left on the table.

macs · 07-03-2009, 01:15 PM

The only unfortunate aspect of all those rumours (if they're true) is that BC looks schizophrenic. Is he looking to improve the wings? Does he want to upgrade up front. Does he want to trade Bosh. It seems like he has Plans A-Z, and which ever one works out best, he'll go with. The raps could either look like an improved version of last year's team, or completley different.

Which one is it going to be? Stay tuned folks....

Gurk · 07-03-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk

um, ariza just got signed for 6, not 8. I think the more we wait with marion, the fewer options are left on the table.

We actually offered Ariza 9 mil but he left it to go sign the MLE in HOuston

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B-RAD is a gearbox of epic proportions. Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,089 Representing:	enough with you bitchin about us bitchin. hypocrite you make sense. but, i still don't like it. TRADE BOSH!! unless this iron man training that he is reportedly doing works trade him when the season begins. Last edited by B-RAD; 07-02-2009 at 06:47 PM.

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B-RAD is a gearbox of epic proportions. Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,089 Representing:	you can't and that is uber all together god it makes me so angry you can't do anything involving improving your team with that money. you can just spend it on, strippers,hookers,suits,limo rides,etc. god i want to kick david stern in his saggy

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komot is a fucking genious whole team for wade Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 189 Representing:	as long as we have Bosh we won't win.

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Kuzzy is a disappointed raptors fan. Say NO to J.O ! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 1,605 Representing:	couldnt agree with you more komot

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'trane is getting it clearly through alternate paths or mixed in with the signal you're sending. giant steps Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 8,198 Representing:	at least there's an argument behind my bitching. trying thinking before you post once in a while and i won't need to...

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xI_kaptain_Ix is an A7X fan. Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: T-Ronto Posts: 140 Representing:	only problem i have is with the refs... how could you properly ref a game if you favor star players?? just makes no sense, aside from gretzky it doesn't happen in hockey... but i know, hockey has their problems as well. On a side note, I think we should be pleased to have a GM like Colangelo, he's determined to show what he can do with a team, I don't know about you but I was stoked when we picked up J-O last year. That was a complete flop, we don't have a lame duck GM and that's a sweet thing.

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10gizzle is Luis Scola Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 778 Representing:	Thank god we didn't pay 10 million for Turkoglu. Thank god we didn't pay 8 million for Ariza. Colangelo has shown some patience and I think it was probably the smartest move. Let the desperate teams overpay...we'll have plenty to work with.

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moremilk is whatever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 4,911 Representing:	um, ariza just got signed for 6, not 8. I think the more we wait with marion, the fewer options are left on the table.

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macs is upset that he is forced to write something here Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The centre of the universe Posts: 481 Representing:	The only unfortunate aspect of all those rumours (if they're true) is that BC looks schizophrenic. Is he looking to improve the wings? Does he want to upgrade up front. Does he want to trade Bosh. It seems like he has Plans A-Z, and which ever one works out best, he'll go with. The raps could either look like an improved version of last year's team, or completley different. Which one is it going to be? Stay tuned folks....