Raptors/Kleiza mutually agree to rescind his offersheet?
Old 07-20-2010, 06:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Raptors/Kleiza mutually agree to rescind his offersheet?

Barnes it is i suppose? Maybe we can do a S&T for Kleiza now?? If that's even possible? Boy they really want them both.

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Nope, no joke. From what I can tell, keeping in mind this might be totally wrong, the Raps and Kleiza are going to have to mutually agree to rescind his offer, then the Raps have to convince Denver to do a S&T for Kleiza, giving them part of Bosh's TPE probably, then they can sign Barnes for part of the MLE that HAD been used on Kleiza. The problem is that Orlando didn't have Barnes' rights, so they can't S&T him. The Raps and Orlando and Barnes' agent didn't seem to realize that the Magic couldn't S&T Barnes. As it stands, it appears Denver hasn't been contacted about Kleiza (according to Hollinger like 12? hours ago), so everything is kind of in limbo. The Raps signed Kleiza, is basically where we are right now, and they can't sign Barnes because it would violate the CBA.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Can't be done this late
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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But Denver would be smart to do it, they don't want barnes going to la
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I doubt Kleiza's party would agree to do this so Barnes could come in and play infront of him unless he gets more money in a S&T with Denver.
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Wow, either the level of knowledge of this group has grown or those NBA professionals have collectively lost their minds - at least 3 different people here have expressed the exact CBA-related concerns he is talking about pretty much immediately upon learning the Barnes' news... :facepalm:

Anyway, milk, it's not too late. Until the contract (not the offer sheet) is officially signed, Raptors and Kleiza can mutually agree to void the offer sheet. I just hope Denver won't have a problem helping us out, that is assuming that BC still thinks it's a good idea to have both players on the roster. All in all, it's a rather large collective egg on all their faces, delivered "smartly" via Twitter by the player himself.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Why does we need Barnes so damn desperately?

I would rather use that TPE on someone else.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Why does we need Barnes so damn desperately?

I would rather use that TPE on someone else.
TPE? We're not using that on Barnes.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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TPE? We're not using that on Barnes.
I know, it's likely used on Klezia if there is a sign and trade.
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Yay! I was hoping this would happen. We're gonna S/T a TPE to Denver, and use the MLE to sign Barnes.
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TPE? We're not using that on Barnes.
Yes, we'd be using a portion of that TPE on Barnes in any S&T scenario. If Kleiza is S&Traded, then we'd be using that on him. We don't have money under the cap for Amir and both of those guys.
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Yes, we'd be using a portion of that TPE on Barnes in any S&T scenario. If Kleiza is S&Traded, then we'd be using that on him. We don't have money under the cap for Amir and both of those guys.
In this scenario it would be MLE for Barnes, and TPE(from Pheonix?) and maybe an expiring for Kleiza, no?
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Wow. I dont think I've ever seen anything like this before in the NBA.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't see this happening. Too many things can go wrong and likely will. The only thing that shows me something might get done is that it's been quiet for most of the day. They've all shut their cakeholes!!
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Wow, either the level of knowledge of this group has grown or those NBA professionals have collectively lost their minds - at least 3 different people here have expressed the exact CBA-related concerns he is talking about pretty much immediately upon learning the Barnes' news... :facepalm:

Anyway, milk, it's not too late. Until the contract (not the offer sheet) is officially signed, Raptors and Kleiza can mutually agree to void the offer sheet. I just hope Denver won't have a problem helping us out, that is assuming that BC still thinks it's a good idea to have both players on the roster. All in all, it's a rather large collective egg on all their faces, delivered "smartly" via Twitter by the player himself.
I thought I've read that after 7 days, if not matched, a rfa offer becomes a contract automatically. I might be wrong though.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Having both Kelza and Barnes is so reduntant, I can't believe there going to this much trouble to get both these guys, I'd understand if we were a contender but, were not so its kinda stupid, only reason i can think is it has something to do for clearing cap room for 2011 or 2012 but who the hell would want to come to toronto
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this is all a waste IMO... just take Kleiza and be happy, then use the TPE elsewhere... why is Barnes getting all of this attention from us?
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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what a fuck up

and I'd prefer to just take Barnes and use the TPE on someone else besides Kleiza. But I guess if they want Barnes then they have to work this deal with Kleiza so he'll rescind. Talk about not having your ducks in a row.
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Having both Kelza and Barnes is so reduntant, I can't believe there going to this much trouble to get both these guys, I'd understand if we were a contender but, were not so its kinda stupid, only reason i can think is it has something to do for clearing cap room for 2011 or 2012 but who the hell would want to come to toronto
I don't get why Barnes/Kleiza would be redundant. Barnes can shut people down and defend multiple positions. Kleiza can't because he lacks lateral quickness.
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