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Old 02-18-2014, 01:37 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I just wish Lowry would proclaim his love for Toronto already but of course he has to be political about it ugh
he's a smart guy. that would hurt his bargaining chances this summer.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:53 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:08 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I don't want this deal. There will be hell to pay for Rondo. Plus his contract expires in 2015. Don't want another "will he stay or will he go" situation next year.
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:29 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Surprised so many people would be so eager to aquire a guy who can't shoot, coming off an ACL injury and only one year remaining on his contract.
Negative Nancy aren't you? How about....

1) He's still only 27.

2) He has championship experience

3) He's tough as nails and a top notch floor leader who excels at D.

4) Contrary to popular belief he CAN score.


People are STILL lamenting the fact that we passed on Danny Granger and he had KNOWN knee issues.... and isn't half the player that Rondo is. Obviously you'd want him to sign an extension before trading for him but it's a solid opportunity to get a tier 1 star.
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Negative Nancy aren't you? How about....

1) He's still only 27.

2) He has championship experience

3) He's tough as nails and a top notch floor leader who excels at D.

4) Contrary to popular belief he CAN score.


People are STILL lamenting the fact that we passed on Danny Granger and he had KNOWN knee issues.... and isn't half the player that Rondo is. Obviously you'd want him to sign an extension before trading for him but it's a solid opportunity to get a tier 1 star.
Sign an extension based on what exactly? His play before he got injured?

BC would certainly take that risk but not the braintrust we have now.

No chance we do this if we have a competent front office.
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:45 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Just wanted to point out that he'll be 28 in 4 days. Not much of a difference, just seeing a lot of people state that he's 27, which is of course correct. But, we can just go ahead and say 28. Ha.
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Old 02-18-2014, 03:04 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Negative Nancy aren't you? How about....

1) He's still only 27.

2) He has championship experience

3) He's tough as nails and a top notch floor leader who excels at D.

4) Contrary to popular belief he CAN score.


People are STILL lamenting the fact that we passed on Danny Granger and he had KNOWN knee issues.... and isn't half the player that Rondo is. Obviously you'd want him to sign an extension before trading for him but it's a solid opportunity to get a tier 1 star.
tier 1 star sure, before injury. but right now the jury is still out on whether lowry is better or rondo. lowry after an up and down career, looks to have made the leap to finally being a consistent threat all around. I'd say lowry is a tier 1 star this year. difference between lowry and rondo?

rondo:
-still don't know how he'll return in terms of play
-known to be a bit of a nut case, opposing to lowry who seems to have matured.
-can't shoot
-doesn't have the chemistry built in with our guys like lowry does
expires in a year


lowry:
UFA this summer



honestly that's the only negative I see with lowry at the moment. Note especially that rondo can't shoot. rondo excelled on a team with pierce, allen, and KG. all of whom can shoot. allen is arguably the greatest off p/r and spot up shooter of all time, while pierce was a shooter who could take it off the dribble, or spot up, and was clutch as FUCK. KG had a sweet sweet stroke up till 18 feet, even with a hand in the face.


our lineup? we have DD, a great mid range guy who gets to the charity stripe a lot, so needs shooters around him for space ala lowry and ross.

ross, a great shooter

Amir, can hit the open 18 footer somewhat consistently, and a poor but not horrendous 3 pt shooter. definitely isn't reliable as a spacer.



rondo benefited greatly with one of the best shooting lineups of all time. That's not to say he wasn't a great player; just that he might not necessarily get to be that tier 1 star, even if he has the same capabilities, with this roster.
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Old 02-18-2014, 03:14 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I dont really think lowry is all that worse than rondo
lowry is far and away a better shooter, and the chemistry thing (he and DD seem to get along really well). Also rondo's UFA wud mean we'd have to majorly pay up in a couple years, we will have to pay to keep lowry, but not rondo money.

that said if MU worked a three team deal where we got rondo, third team got lowry, celts got some picks/filler I wouldnt hate.
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Old 02-18-2014, 03:29 AM   #49 (permalink)
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We know what he can be at his best so if buying low means acquiring him when he's coming off an injury then its a necessary risk to consider if they cough up just 1 first round pick. If it doesn't work,he could be moved in the off season. I think this is a low risk,high reward situation.

There may be some drop off in the back court with the shooting but I think he'll get Valanciunas and Amir some easy baskets to make up for it.
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I would trade him for Vasquez and some NY 1st pick, not for Lowry, for sure. He's coming back of the serious injury, and are 2x worse than Lowry.
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Other GMs would be looking for rondo too, if he's got it'd not be great if ATL or NY got him
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:36 AM   #52 (permalink)
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The only way i see Rondo coming here is if we get an extra lottery pick out of the deal somehow by being able to trade Lowry to Sacramento for Thomas and a pick. That doesn't seem plausible, with Lowry able to bolt, but it would take something like that, with Amir or Demar going to Boston.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:41 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I personally prefer Lowry over Rondo on a game by game basis. Rondo takes nights off and it's still yet to be seen how his temperament could work with a team that isn't full of vets, while Lowry's leadership has shone through.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:55 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Surprised so many people would be so eager to aquire a guy who can't shoot, coming off an ACL injury and only one year remaining on his contract.
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We should be running as far away from Rondo as we can.
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We might have the worst 3pt shooting backcourt in the league if this happens.
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Old 02-18-2014, 07:40 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I understand all the negatives about getting Rondo, but shit ... I have always dreamed of getting Rondo in a Raptor jersey.
If we don't give away the 2 picks and find away to off-load Fields, etc and able to get value in a Lowry trade, this could be a first step towards building a championship team.

I would certainly want to do my homework on Rondo's injury recovery, etc and really assess our ability to resign. If MU believes he can't resign him, a trade this summer or next year is always possible. Rondo has value assuming full recovery from injury.
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Old 02-18-2014, 07:43 AM   #57 (permalink)
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People tend to forget any environment a player flourished in. Rondo looked like a super star while playing beside KG and PP, now, put him in a different situation, and I can assure you, you will get a different outcome from him. I know that Rondo has been a great PG for most of his career, but think about it, why will you try to reinvent the wheel, I mean why will you take Rondo over Lowery ? Lowery has shown great performance beside guys like DD, Amir and JV, can you compare those guys to KG and PP ?
The answer is no.
I will not take such a risk and I will try to keep Lowery and this squad and improve our bench and hire a good coach. Those are the keys for us to keep improving.
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Old 02-18-2014, 07:48 AM   #58 (permalink)
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People tend to forget any environment a player flourished in. Rondo looked like a super star while playing beside KG and PP, now, put him in a different situation, and I can assure you, you will get a different outcome from him. I know that Rondo has been a great PG for most of his career, but think about it, why will try to reinvent the wheel, I mean why will you take Rondo over Lowery ? Lowery has shown great performance beside guys like DD, Amir and JV, can you compare those guys to KG and PP ?
The answer is no.
I will not take such a risk and I will try to keep Lowery and this squad and improve our bench and hire a good coach. Those are the keys for us to keep improving.
I understand your logic, so I'm not trying to criticize .... Lowry may leave for nothing this summer. Do you really think Lowry can be part of a championship team? I love the way he is playing and would certainly like to keep him in the right scenario, but if Rondo is healthy ... there is no comparison in my view. With the addition of a FA (summer) + Rondo, and the rest of the guys, we become a decent contender with some luck.

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Old 02-18-2014, 09:02 AM   #59 (permalink)
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can a team with Lowry win a champiionship? it's the only argument I need to do everything possible to keep Lowry here.
why would Boston wanna trade Rondo (apart from Ainge being deranged)? they have shooters, in fact all their big men can shoot.
Rondo excells in eye of the needle passing, but our bigs sometimes struggle even with Vasquez passes.
I hope Ujiri just pretends to be busy. I wanna see play-offs with the group we have here.

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Old 02-18-2014, 09:07 AM   #60 (permalink)
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This is so stupid and makes zero sense. Why are we rambling about this junk?

Rondo can't shoot. He is a TERRIBLE fit for the Raptors. Lowry is the man and will be for years to come. Get over it. These are silly fantasies that make absolutely no sense... it's so weird to me that people are buying this caca. Really people?
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