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Old 07-28-2009, 01:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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In the wake of what appears to be yet another big off-season trade, it appears that economy be damned, a lot of teams aren't content to sit on the sidelines of trade activity this summer.

The Orlando Magic have maybe been the most active team this off-season despite going all the way to the NBA Finals last year.

And the Toronto Raptors have been no slouches themselves in the personnel moves department, almost matching the Magic transaction for transaction.

In fact last season before the Orlando Magic really took off in the standings, many Raptors fans, myself included, compared Orlando to Toronto and vice versa. This was especially true once Toronto acquired Shawn Marion.

Both teams relied on a dominant post player (albeit in different fashions) and essentially surrounded them with a collection of skilled jump shooters and multi-faceted talents like the aforementioned Marion and Turkoglu. I even went so far as to compare Andrea Bargnani to Rashard Lewis after watching Lewis in the playoffs. Not that Andrea was at the same level as Lewis production-wise, but that there were some very large similarities in their games and that perhaps Lewis represented a ceiling of sorts for Il Mago.

There was never any question that Orlando had the superior talent in this comparison though, to the point that I believe I referred to the Raps as the Magic version 1.0.

And while that's possibly even moreso the case now that the Magic have re-loaded this off-season, it's inevitable now that Hedo has joined "version 1.0" of his former club, that comparisons would abound.

But just how similar now are these two clubs?

Jameer Nelson is certainly effective running an offence in the half-court and has greatly improved his shooting skills, but I don't think anyone would confuse he and Jose.

And likewise Bosh and Howard can both dominate games, but they tend to do so in very different fashions.

However there are indeed similarities between the two clubs from individual players to the style of play; both favouring an offense that is dominated by pick-and-roll scenarios and that likes to create mismatches one-on-one.
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Old 07-28-2009, 02:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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debuking another myth: andreea not only matches lewis production wise, but actually is more productive, as a center, than lewis is. And I dare to say that his defense is better too. The only thing lewis has on andreea is experience, which is important, but obvioulsy surmontable ...
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debuking another myth: andreea not only matches lewis production wise, but actually is more productive, as a center, than lewis is.
is that averaged over the entire season? or just the last half where Bargs actually was productive
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Let's just say the "Andrea is a poor man's Lewis" myth is officially debunked.
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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is that averaged over the entire season? or just the last half where Bargs actually was productive
um, as a starting C.

Just for the heck of it:
in 60 games as a starter at any position (yes - that many, surprised?), andreea averaged:
17.7 ppg, 5.9 rebounds, 1.4 assists, 1.3 blocks and 0.5 steals and 4ft attempts

over 79 games, lewis averaged:
17.7 ppg, 5.7 rebounds, 2.6 assists, .6 blocks, 1 steal and 3.4 FT

Shockingly similar.

As a starting C however, over 47 games (more than half a season), andreea is improving on these stats, and thus overtakes lewis, at least from a production point of view.

And Lewis will make more than twice as much as andreea over the next 5 years.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Lewis' clutch factor and CONSISTANT shot making ability, as well as his ability in the post vs smaller guys makes him a matchup nightmare. Bargs is almost at a point where hes a consistant 17+ PPG guy like Lewis is but not quite yet. I still want to see him have a full season where he doesnt look tired for multiple games at a time and where his J isnt inconsistant first. Lewis' consistancy also sets him apart at the moment IMO.
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Old 07-29-2009, 12:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I agree, lewis is the better player right now. But production wise, they are very similar, with a slight edge to andreea, who is arguably the better defender. And Andreea is a nightmare matchup too, it's just that we're not really exploiting that as much.

as far as consistency, I think it's more of a case of the greener case, lewis is not even close to being consistent. Here is his scoring in the last full month of last season (march):



I'll let you guess who is the red player and who is the blue one.

I think what you mean is that lewis is a known quantity, you know he will get you 17-20 points next season, and the next and so on. With Andreea, there have been many ups and downs, so we can never be sure until we see two seasons of good play in a row ...

On the flip side, the upside of andreea is incomparable with lewis, who is an established player by now.
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Rashard Lewis'd better increase his FG percentage 'cause he ain't taking as many shots as he used to with Carter and Jameer possessing the ball.
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