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Old 07-22-2009, 08:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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One has to wonder just what's going through Marcus Banks' head right now.

The team he joined but months ago already had two point guards ahead of him on its roster, and now yesterday afternoon, made it official by signing a third, Jarrett Jack.

Is Banks looking at this roster and thinking, "I’m NEVER going to get off the bench?"

Or is he simply lounging at a pool in Vegas somewhere, not thinking about anything except for the fact that Toronto’s newest and latest heralded acquisition is basically making the same amount of money as him for the next two seasons?

As a Raptors’ fan, it’s tough to look at the roster and see Banks eating close to $10 Million in cap space between this coming season and the next. Toronto has done some major upgrading at key positions and if Banks’ salary and roster spot was up for grabs, the team could probably have pursued additional upgrades to solidify the bench and maybe even starting line-up.

Instead, with only a small portion of the MLE to use and the full, albeit miniscule bi-annual exception at their disposal, the Raptors don’t have a lot of options left.

What’s most frustrating for me though financials aside, is that Jack is essentially a carbon copy of the type of player Banks is, albeit a more productive version.

Both are about the same size and sport similar physical attributes.

Both can man the 1 or 2, and while comfortable running a team (see their individual college careers), both are hardly your prototypical pass-first point guards ala Nash and Calderon.

And while both can score, both can also defend their positions quite well.

Yes, even Marcus Banks when he decides he wants to.

In fact Banks could have been Jack for the Raptors couldn’t he?

Now, the Dinos are stuck with essentially the same type of player instead of having upgrades elsewhere on the roster. It’s this duplication of skill sets that I felt killed the Raptors last year that suddenly has once more reared its ugly head. Last year Jamario Moon for all his athleticism and length, was content to pretend to be Jason Kapono and to a lesser degree Anthony Parker. The Raps HAD guys who could shoot 3’s, they needed someone to get to the hoop off the bounce!

Which brings me back to Mr. Banks.

Even before the season ended last year, I pondered the idea of Banks being the key player on this team going into the upcoming season.

Not key like Bosh or Calderon of course, but key in the sense that if the Raptors can get anything from him this coming season, it could be huge and here’s why.

First of all, the Raptors still look a bit thin at the 2 guard spot. Suddenly, if Banks can come in and be productive it gives Jay Triano some more options. As mentioned, I don’t expect him to provide much variety from Jarrett Jack’s game, but even if he could be a factor defensively it would be a huge upgrade over last season.

Second, and more importantly, if Banks comes in and shows he can run the team, make some plays, lock-down some opponents etc, then come trade deadline time, he becomes infinitely more tradeable; especially since by then, he’ll be about to enter the final year on his contract. This is especially important if the Raptors are threatening to make some playoff noise as Banks could provide the missing pieces to a nice springtime run.

However right now all of this looks like a pipe dream.

I’ve compared Banks to Jack in this post but I’m by no means trying to say that one could take the place of the other right now on the court despite their similarities. Jack is an excellent pick-and-roll orchestrator, something that should mesh well with Jay Triano’s offence, while Banks is a much more effective player in the open court. And while Banks sports a fairly solid true shooting percentage, his PER of 7.89 versus 13.10 for Jack last year leaves little to be desired in terms of an outlook for the upcoming season.

So really this falls on the Legomaster now and his coaching staff.

Can they somehow coax a solid season out of Banks, perhaps selling him on the fact that there’s still a back-up spot open? Really, Jack could be filling the spot behind Jose or whoever mans the shooting guard position so there will still be opportunities even if/when Carlos Delfino comes on board.

I’m not going to say I have my hopes up here, but I do think that getting some sort of productivity from Banks could go a long way in determining just how high this team rises in the East.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Banks is probably as useful as a used piece of toilet paper.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i don't know what the deal is with Banks but he doesn't seem useless, ive seen him play and he doesn't completly suck. DId he lose interest in Basketball or was he just injured. I think if Bank is smart, he shuold at least try to play and hopefully get one more contract before he retires
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To get one more contract? He should be on his knees thanking God every night that he had that one half decent season that netted him a long term contract at 4.5 million per.
What he needs to do is hire a good accountant who will guide him investing that money wisely.
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I asked this a while back and nobody said anything so i'll ask again?

Does anyone know how or why Marcus Banks scored such a sweet contract? I mean did he play well for 1 season? half a season? a string of games?

p.s. I have a new nickname for him. Marcus "Yogi 2" Banks.


EDIT: just saw your post hoops (too slow). How half-decent was he?
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have wondered the same thing as this guy in this article. My conclusion was that whatever he did to get to the NBA he must have stopped doing, as well, he must have stopped progressing to the point that it appeared to be regression. NBA coaching staff's are hard working and dedicated sorts, they do thier homework. Often there's contract issues that can get a player benched, however most often is ability or performance/ compliance with the team direction or system.

I wonder which Banks falls into.
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I asked this a while back and nobody said anything so i'll ask again?

Does anyone know how or why Marcus Banks scored such a sweet contract? I mean did he play well for 1 season? half a season? a string of games?

p.s. I have a new nickname for him. Marcus "Yogi 2" Banks.
I think he averaged like 12 ppg and was a strong defender.. for like one season. I suppose he was looked at as a up-and-comer. I guess Kerr/Sarver liked him enough to hand him a fat contract.
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my understanding is that it is a significant lack of effort combined with a degree of boneheadedness. he just didn't try hard and didn't run the system the way he was supposed to. i guess when you are fighting for minutes it can be tempting to be selfish to showcase your skills. that can easily come off as undisciplined if done poorly.
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I always thought Colangelo signed him to that deal.

BTW. sounds a little like Jarrett Jack, no?
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He had a good half a season in Minnesota.

Raps wanted him to play in the Summer Legue, but he refused.
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he doesnt completely suck... he was a starter in his second year in the league... i think he avg'd about 12 points per game.
he had potential to be a fairly good (if not great) PG, so he was paid on this potential but never lived up to it. its as if as soon as he signed that big contract, he packed it in and was content with his game.
i truly think he just doesnt care, he's coasting through his career and is being paid to wear a suit on the bench... its sad, but he has no motivation or ambition to do something with himself.
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Raps wanted him to play in the Summer Legue, but he refused.
Nice. I like that he is willing to impress team management.
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i just think he got paid and is happy with that. his only decent season was with min. he could not even put up numbers with the stats stacking PHX teams, plus it was his contract year. his next year back to the same old banks. if he is any good this year it would be a surprise. look he refused to go to summer league to work on his game he will not help the team only his self

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there's a fairly good write up about him here: Pete Marasmitch Marcus Banks

his best season came playing beside kg, which may have had a lot to do with his success. streaky shooter, better as a 2 than a 1, but not big enough. undisciplined, wastes his speed and talent trying to do things he's not great at...
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I always thought Colangelo signed him to that deal.

BTW. sounds a little like Jarrett Jack, no?
Colangelo took the Raptors post in Feb/March 2006. Banks signed in Phoenix in July 2006.

I know where you're coming from with the Jack comparison, but it's not the same. Jack has improved pretty much every season, and he's a smart player. He plays within his capabilities. Banks just isn't that guy.
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With Ukic out the door, and Jose having a history of injury, keep Marcus Banks as our third point guard. He is a very good defender, and is quick with the ability to get to the rim. The major issue with Marcus Banks is his decision making as a point guard. If Jose goes down, Jack starts, and allow Hedo to handle the ball when the second unit comes to the floor.
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How come teams sign a contract that pays a player even though he can't get to the floor? Pay check without work? How on earth are the NBA players so powerful? I don't think it is possible in the Euro zone.
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How come teams sign a contract that pays a player even though he can't get to the floor? Pay check without work?
I guess you have never worked for Canadian Government. There alot of big contracts where player don't even touch the floor: Jamal Tinsley, Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Darius Miles, Steve Francis, Kenny Thomas, Raef Lafrentz
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To get one more contract? He should be on his knees thanking God every night that he had that one half decent season that netted him a long term contract at 4.5 million per.
What he needs to do is hire a good accountant who will guide him investing that money wisely.
i think you're talking about financial advisor?
i can see him buy tons of bling and a few cars.....hehehe

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i just think he got paid and is happy with that. his only decent season was with min. he could not even put up numbers with the stats stacking PHX teams, plus it was his contract year. his next year back to the same old banks. if he is any good this year it would be a surprise. look he refused to go to summer league to work on his game he will not help the team only his self
if i remember correctly he didn't get off the bench much for the suns...
as nash took the majority of the minutes and barbosa took the rest when nash was out of the game....but he would have gotten a bit of burn if he worked a bit in practice and such
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