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Old 05-04-2009, 10:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Last summer, when things got a little quiet around Raptorland and the crickets started to come out, I started a series of “Sunday Thoughts;” quick Sunday discussion pieces regarding various topics that either came to mind in light of off-season team maneuvers, or sometimes as the result of non-basketball related diversions altogether.

Since we’re still another few weeks away from the draft lottery, I thought now might be a good time to bust out the first Sunday installment, especially since last night’s Celtics win over the Bulls capped what many are calling the greatest first-round series in NBA history.

You know the numbers by now; a record four OT games, a zillion ties, a trillion ridiculous game-changing shots, a…you get the idea. The point is this was a series that you just didn’t want to end as even though last night’s victory concluded with a 10 point Boston win, you just couldn’t count the Bulls out until the final horn sounded.

So I got thinking.

One of the main destinations that keeps popping up regarding Chris Bosh is Chicago. The Bulls have needed a low-post presence for eons, and a Rose and CB4 combination would be dynamite both on the court, and at the gate. But with the way the Bulls gelled during their playoff run, and the success they had with their current group, does this make them a more, or less likely destination for Bosh now?

And on the flip side, as Raptors fans, have players like Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas shown enough this spring to warrant inclusion in a deal with the Raps? Wouldn’t one or both, along with a contract like that of Luol Deng, surely have to be included in any sort of transaction?

From my perspective, I think the Bulls run makes it more likely that they aggressively pursue a deal for Bosh. They were inches away on numerous occasions from advancing to the next round and a consistent scoring presence from the 4 spot would undoubtedly put them over the top. They’ve got some nice young talent to spare, and considering Deng didn’t even play, they have wing options to move around as well.

Now that’s all fine on the Chicago side, but what about for us Raptors’ fans? Losing CB4 is not exactly something I’m looking forward to, but would having a healthy Deng on board, in addition to some athleticism and motor via Thomas and/or Noah help to soften Bosh’s departure? Would either fit next to Andrea for that matter?

It’s hard to say.

Even two weeks ago most fans I assume still looked at Noah as being over-hyped out of Florida, and Thomas as a complete bust considering where he was selected. However this past series I think showed some of their true colours. Neither are All-Star caliber players in all likelihood, but both are solid pieces that superior teams need to have; Noah playing the Anderson Varejao card and Thomas looking like a Dennis Rodman type.

Howland when the series began intimated that he hoped the Bulls would win, thus perhaps convincing Chicago management that Bosh wasn’t needed going forward.

I’m not so sure that’s the case, as if anything, the Bulls’ brass may now say “look how close we were…if we just had one more major piece…”

The question is, assuming Bosh says thanks but no thanks to his upcoming extension offer, will BC consider providing that last major piece?
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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NO

for some reason I don't like the Bulls as a team
anyone with me on this?
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The chemistry of the Bulls is vastly overrated. Their starting wing players are black holes on offense and are absolutely looking to get theirs every time they touch the ball. Ben Gordon consistently looks off of open players and the body language of those players screams frustration.

If anything, the Bulls' "run" makes a trade with Bosh more likely. Joakim Noah disgusts me, but that's only because he's not on my team. Tyrus Thomas is an idiot, but he can definitely help us. I'm just not sure if Deng is the answer.
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I can't see BC looking past Noah's poor offense. Thomas looks like he can develop a consistent shot at least. If Hinrich was included it would at least look more feasible, especially if you're going to tell me that the Bulls are being aggressive here.
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thomas is certainly no rodman. that's simply ludicrous.

2 things -

1) why would we trade our best player for role players?
2) why would we send Bosh to a conference rival to create what would surely be a dominant small-big combo for years to come?
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I thin Deng should amount to more than just a role player, although in a borderline sense.

But if this trade happened, I would very likely be just as big of a Bulls fan as a Raptors fan, if not moreso. It really would favor the Bulls.
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Simple Boston did not have Garnett.

If they had him it would have been a much shorter series.
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Luol Deng and Joakin Noah are both excellent young players. Both those guys would need to be involved in a Chris Bosh trade. I would like to see their draft pick on the table as well.
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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bosh is a must have we cannot lose him he is one of the biggest part of the team as in leader, point scorer, gets the crowd fired up!!! i mean how can we even think about losing him he is so important!!!!
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for some reason I don't like the Bulls as a team
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Yeah! They have talent but there really isn't any package there that i would want for Bosh. And beyond Rose there isn't any one star there to really warrant a trade. I say no.

Deng is a pretty good player but has injury issues, Gordon who's a FA is one demensional, Rose isn't going anywhere, Noah = Mehhhhhh

So unless a miracle happens and we can land Rose, no trade involving Bosh is gonna happen here. We can do much better with other teams, not the least of which is GS.
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Unless we get Rose in the deal Bosh isn't going to CHI
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Makes it less likely. Chicago will stick with their combo, if they want to beef up at PF they can easily do Hinrich for Jamison, I think. Rose/Tyrus/Noah has a ton of potential, just let them grow together for a few years
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