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Old 07-23-2008, 12:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There’s been a major shuffle in the Raptors front office staff; nobody is really going anywhere, but a number of people have received new titles and I’m sure more cash is coming with these promotions as well. Kudos to …

Maurizio Gherardini (formerly the VP and Asst GM) … who is now the Raptors Senior VP of Basketball Operations.

Marc Eversley (formerly Director of Basketball Operations) … who is now Assistant General Manager, Player Development.

Masai Ujiri (formerly Director of Global Scouting) … who is now Assistant General Manager, Player Personnel.

Jim Kelly (formerly Director of Player Personnel) … who is now Senior Director of Player Personnel. Kelly will be entering his 15th season with the Raps.

Steve Fruitman (formerly Director of Basketball Finance) … who is now Toronto’s Senior Director of Basketball Administration. Fruitman is the Raptors CBA guru.

Micah Nori (formerly Advance Scout) … who is now Director of NBA Scouting. Nori enters his 11th season with T.O.
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Why were these people promoted again? Because the team has achieved exactly... what?
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Jim Kelly found Moon and Jawai. lol
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Old 07-23-2008, 01:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The only names i've heard before there are Kelly and Nori.

Yeah I'm not the best with the names of teams' staff members.
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Why were these people promoted again? Because the team has achieved exactly... what?
I guess the targets were on the business side more than on the sports side.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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OK - so if they can spend more dough on these guys, then I say they can pay a little tax by picking up another piece before the trade deadline. I'm not talking pie in the sky, just that the absolute spending limits need to come off for a little while.
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Old 07-24-2008, 01:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't think you are fair in your reasoning. A business' primary goal is to make as much money as possible, so just because they make more, it doesn't mean they should spend more, unless it could lead to making even more money ...

If Colangelo would be convinced that adding another piece could almsot guarantee us to make the finals, they would go over the luxury tax for it. But the problem is that nobody knows for sure what this team is capable of, the forecasts range from not in the playoffs to NBA Finals. If we prove we can contend this season, I'm sure Colangelo will have more freedom to spend beyond the luxury tax.


Because it's as simple as this, paying MLE for an average player like Pietrus would cost us 15+ millions every year for 3 or 4 years. We would have to probably win 2 additional playoff series just to break even. Do you honestly think that adding Pietrus would that to us?

In the end it's all business, even for teams like Portland owned by one of the richest guys on the planet.
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In the end it's all business, even for teams like Portland owned by one of the richest guys on the planet.
Yes, it is.

That supports LX's idea.

If the organization can promote these individuals and (presumably) give them extra money to do front office duties, why can't they spend extra money to improve the team on the court?

If they can up the front office budget, they should be able to up the on court budget as well if they're contending near the trade deadline.
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yes, it is.

That supports LX's idea.

If the organization can promote these individuals and (presumably) give them extra money to do front office duties, why can't they spend extra money to improve the team on the court?

If they can up the front office budget, they should be able to up the on court budget as well if they're contending near the trade deadline.
No, you are dead wrong. How much do you think all those promotions add up to? Another million or so, max?

Going over the luxury tax, even for 1 dollar over, leaves the team out of the re-distribution money, which could amount to 5-6 million dollars this season, easily. See the difference?
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No, you are dead wrong. How much do you think all those promotions add up to? Another million or so, max?

Going over the luxury tax, even for 1 dollar over, leaves the team out of the re-distribution money, which could amount to 5-6 million dollars this season, easily. See the difference?
To follow up on Mike's point.

MLSE is a privatley traded company and budgets are set by a board of directors.

There is a budget for the Raptors and that is broken down into Ops and Team. I'm sure these promotions fit withen the Board of Directors Budget and the luxury tax does not.
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No, you are dead wrong. How much do you think all those promotions add up to? Another million or so, max?

Going over the luxury tax, even for 1 dollar over, leaves the team out of the re-distribution money, which could amount to 5-6 million dollars this season, easily. See the difference?
I'm not saying they should take that money and spend it on players instead...I know how organizations work...I know basketball money and operations money are two seperate things.

I also fully understand the concept of the luxury tax.

My point was that the Raptors, by creating new positions for in house promotions, are clearly spending extra money on the whole.

If MLSE is spending more money on the Raptors operations budget, why not spend some on the basketball budget by going over the luxury tax if it is going to make an impact?

And the difference between 1 and 6 million is peanuts to MLSE.
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I read somewhere that BC said MLSE told him he could go over the luxury limit to sign his last player. I dont remember where I read it but I'll see if I can find a linkage.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The only reason I make the point at all, knowing that these are separate issues and there is the board and everything, is because the biggest expense has been slashed by more than 20 percent thanks to the strengthening dollar. So you know what - use that 20 percent as a short-term investment that can reap long-term benefits, if the right situation arises. That's where my expectations lie as a fan. I'm not talking about spending money that isn't there. I'm talking about taking advantage of a windfall - money that fell into their laps independent of any kind of business savvy. Without that then my expectations are in line with what Mike is saying.

And yeah it's funny that a mill can be dropped on the suits like it's nothing but perfect business sense all the same, but the luxury tax is some kind horror story instead of an actual risk, a business risk that can bring with it even more promotions for the suits in the future. I just hope that there is some sense of priorities within MLSE, and there has been some noise about BC having a bit of a green light, or a little flexibility to go over the threshold, and that's what I like to hear.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:05 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Just to make it perfectly clear - as a fan, I don't care one bit about the profits MLSE reaps from its teams and I am all for spending over the luxury tax if it brings more wins, especially if the impact is also a long-term one. I am simply trying to put myself in accountant's shoes, as it were.
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Just to make it perfectly clear - as a fan, I don't care one bit about the profits MLSE reaps from its teams and I am all for spending over the luxury tax if it brings more wins, especially if the impact is also a long-term one. I am simply trying to put myself in accountant's shoes, as it were.
Then you need to take into accound added revenue. If signing a player means going over the Tax level by a million costing us 5, if by signing that same player meant an increase of gate revenue and jersey sales of 5.5 million then it is a good investment to sign him.

That being said, no one available with the money the team has to spend will have anywhere near that impact on the team financially.
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That being said, no one available with the money the team has to spend will have anywhere near that impact on the team financially.
Exactly. Way to negate the first paragraph with the second one.
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Jim Kelly found Moon and Jawai. lol
Lets not forget that Kelly was also one of the Raptors brass who talked Rob Babcock into drafting Hoffa...
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Lol really he did that
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Lets not forget that Kelly was also one of the Raptors brass who talked Rob Babcock into drafting Hoffa...
(Kelly - the one on the left)



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LOL thata is funny but he deserves it for drafting Hoffa
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