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Old 01-09-2009, 01:37 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:39 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:40 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Jose is 6 foot 3 210lbs
Solomon is 6 foot 1 195lbs

Hard to prove the fact of who is faster but I'll say Solomon is because Joses been playing on a bad hammy

Solomon defensive rating is 111
Joses defensive rating is 112

So I'll be generous and give you 1 out of 3.
by bigger i mean stonger.

solomon is faster than jose when jose is healthy.
solomons quicks are visible.

the defensive rating thing. i dont care about that shit.
you can have that one but watching games will prove the jose is the weaker defender.
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:41 PM   #44 (permalink)
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and back to our original topic....
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:55 PM   #45 (permalink)
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by bigger i mean stonger.

solomon is faster than jose when jose is healthy.
solomons quicks are visible.

the defensive rating thing. i dont care about that shit.
you can have that one but watching games will prove the jose is the weaker defender.

come on stress, just because he has no body fat and looks big, solomon is 35 pounds lighter than me, does that make him stronger than me? i am 5 10? be carefull when you make statements like that, you will be called to explain them...
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:07 PM   #46 (permalink)
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come on stress, just because he has no body fat and looks big, solomon is 35 pounds lighter than me, does that make him stronger than me? i am 5 10? be carefull when you make statements like that, you will be called to explain them...
i dont know you so i couldnt say.

looking at bodys type can reveal a persons strength.
ive seen pg's take solomon in the post and he's stronger.
he does a better job than when someone backs down jose.
solomon isnt afraid to guard anyone on the floor.

and if someone has a low amount of body fat who is 6' and atleast 170lbs it usually means theyre stronger than someone with around the same height and weight with obviously less muscle tone.

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Old 01-09-2009, 02:18 PM   #47 (permalink)
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i dont know you so i couldnt say.

looking at bodys type can reveal a persons strength.
ive seen pg's take solomon in the post and he's stronger.
he does a better job than when someone backs down jose.
solomon isnt afraid to guard anyone on the floor.

and if someone has a low amount of body fat who is 6' and atleast 170lbs it usually means theyre stronger than someone with around the same height and weight with obviously less muscle tone.

1 more man!
tone and strength are NOT the same thing. i have been involved in athletics my whole life and if you think will at 185 is stronger than jose at 210 then you need to spend more time at the gym... i mean they list Bosh at 230 and he is a foot taller than me! do you think i couldn't push him around? i covered centers 6 8 and 6 9 until my senior year because they just couldn't back me down, my senior year the brought in the 3 point line and i feel in love with it! plus we found a guy 6 8 to do the inside work... size does not mean strength and lack of body fat means jack shit! or that would make kobe amongst the strongest in the game.... if you remember thomas steen at all for the winnipeg jets back in the day, he was feared by everyone in the league because he was about 5 10 but could bench around 500 pounds!! he never weighed more than 200 pounds so if you have seen solomon lift weights and KNOW he is stronger than jose, then fine, you can state that, but you can't just say things like that...
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a lack of body fat means shit if you way 180+ and are atleast 6'?
that means your strong.
straight and simple.

i havent seen them bench anything but i brought up the fact how that will doesnt a better job than jose when someone is posting up on him. a good indication he's stronger than jose.

im 6'2 and 210lbs.
i know guys who are around 5'10-6' and weigh 170lbs who are stronger than me.
and they have less body fat than me.
muscle weighs less than fat.
its not always the case all the time.
its about heart.
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:29 PM   #49 (permalink)
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a lack of body fat means shit if you way 180+ and are atleast 6'?
that means your strong.
straight and simple.

i havent seen them bench anything but i brought up the fact how that will doesnt a better job than jose when someone is posting up on him. a good indication he's stronger than jose.

im 6'2 and 210lbs.
i know guys who are around 5'10-6' and weigh 170lbs who are stronger than me.
and they have less body fat than me.
muscle weighs less than fat.
let me see, 1 pound of muscle is equivelent to exactly how many pounds of fat when you step on a scale??

the fact is, this is a shawn marion thread lol, he would look great on the wing with jose feeding him....period.
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:35 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:38 PM   #51 (permalink)
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your link proves my point... a pound of fat and a pound of muscle both weigh a pound... what point were you trying to make?

shawn marion for JO! blow the cap and make it happen or whatever the resulting fall out is... we need an upgrade for Jose to pass to in transition... imagine how many assists he would get if he had someone who could finish running with him!! wooohooo

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Old 01-09-2009, 02:40 PM   #52 (permalink)
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a lack of body fat means shit if you way 180+ and are atleast 6'?
that means your strong.
straight and simple.

i havent seen them bench anything but i brought up the fact how that will doesnt a better job than jose when someone is posting up on him. a good indication he's stronger than jose.

im 6'2 and 210lbs.
i know guys who are around 5'10-6' and weigh 170lbs who are stronger than me.
and they have less body fat than me.
muscle weighs less than fat.
its not always the case all the time.
its about heart.
the saying is muscle weighs MORE than fat.

and 1lb is 1lb.

I am well over 275lbs and I guarantee I am a hell of alot stronger than you and Takman together.

Butterbean is like 400lbs
All those strongmen guys are all well over 350 with lots of body fat.

Size generally translated to strength, especially in basketball, but that being said, Solomon is more defined than Jose, but then again Bosh is more defined than Bargs, but I wouldnt say Bosh is stronger.
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:43 PM   #53 (permalink)
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your link proves my point... a pound of fat and a pound of muscle both weigh a pound... what point were you trying to make?

shawn marion for JO! blow the cap and make it happen or whatever the resulting fall out is... we need an upgrade for Jose to pass to in transition... imagine how many assists he would get if he had someone who could finish running with him!! wooohooo

ok ok, youre right.
but it would seem to me solomon would stronger anyway if thats the case.

but whatever.

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Old 01-09-2009, 02:45 PM   #54 (permalink)
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bosh is a twig and the reason he can't defend his position... i am strong, but guys your size would eat me up, that is why lebron is such a special athlete at around 280 he is an incredible speciman but at 230, Bosh is just too small.. andrea put on some muscle and is much more effective this year
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I seriously think the Marion would be a 100000000000x better than most of our wings. If we get him, I dont want him taking shot s but driving
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Old 01-09-2009, 03:34 PM   #56 (permalink)
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jose cant even make alley-oop passes consistantly.
Stress if they run it will come. lol I always was a Nash fan and still am, however, my friend easy on those alley -oop passes. Nash turns the ball twice for every assist. If Nash was here it would be scary to think about how bad his numbers would be.
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Stress if they run it will come. lol I always was a Nash fan and still am, however, my friend easy on those alley -oop passes. Nash turns the ball twice for every assist. If Nash was here it would be scary to think about how bad his numbers would be.
please don't start spewing false information. Nash is a career 7.9 assists per game and 2.69 turnovers per game... please get the facts right or don't make them up. thanks.
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:13 PM   #58 (permalink)
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thats not true.
bosh, moon, graham, bargnani, oneal, and sometimes parker have all been running the floor ahead of Calderon and rarely receive the ball.

game tape never lies.
your fucking idiocy irks me today.

dunno why, probably because I am certain that your schtick is all a game, because nobody with as much interest in any sport could possibly be that stupid.

could they?
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your fucking idiocy irks me today.

dunno why, probably because I am certain that your schtick is all a game, because nobody with as much interest in any sport could possibly be that stupid.

could they?
youre just upset because jose cant make those passes.
and if you think he shouldnt pass it then whats the point of guys running the floor only to get an 18-foot jumper after jose fails hit the open man running through the lane.

our fast break points are up as well as our turnovers but we're making a game out of every game without jose.
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buddy, I've run fast breaks in college, you and I aren't watching the same game.
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