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Old 06-17-2009, 10:05 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Man I hope Toronto trades with Golden State!!
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:07 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Man I hope Toronto trades with Golden State!!
Unless we trade Jose or Bosh to them, i don't see a deal with them happening.

I guess there is an outside chance of S&T Joey and or AP to them for someone like Belinelli +filler(which would give me a semi lol).
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:40 PM   #63 (permalink)
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sign and trade using joey would give us nothing
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:42 PM   #64 (permalink)
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sign and trade using joey would give us nothing
Actually a trade (Joey for Belinelli was all but done last season and fell through at the last minute) and with a few tweaks that could be revisited imo.
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:43 PM   #65 (permalink)
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It may be a crooked, corrupt, crime-riddled land, but it has a lot of beauty.

Rodstriker - I like your analysis of Delfino. It definitely seems like you've been watching him enough and have a pretty solid idea of the game he can bring. I hope you're right because if so I think he can be an excellent compliment to Marion on the wing...
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I've been watching him a lot!
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Actually a trade (Joey for Belinelli was all but done last season and fell through at the last minute) and with a few tweaks that could be revisited imo.
like i said, it would give us nothing
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Old 06-17-2009, 11:09 PM   #67 (permalink)
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like i said, it would give us nothing
So you think Belinelli is nothing?
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:02 AM   #68 (permalink)
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So you think Belinelli is nothing?
Think the biggest reason Bellinelli is often relegated to backup is that he can fall in love with his jump shot and never drive the ball. He definitely loves to heave them up, yet he is a pretty good ballhandler and has no trouble getting to the hole when he wants to.

Remember watching him play a great game one night and the Warrior announcer said he works really hard on his game and Marco thinks he can become one of the best players in the world. So he certainly has lofty expectations of himself.

If there's any way to revisit that deal, you gotta go for it.
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:06 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Think the biggest reason Bellinelli is often relegated to backup is that he can fall in love with his jump shot and never drive the ball. He definitely loves to heave them up, yet he is a pretty good ballhandler and has no trouble getting to the hole when he wants to.

Remember watching him play a great game one night and the Warrior announcer said he works really hard on his game and Marco thinks he can become one of the best players in the world. So he certainly has lofty expectations of himself.

If there's any way to revisit that deal, you gotta go for it.
You certainly do. He has great handles, can shoot and is a pretty good defender and is a young player with alot of ambition and work ethic.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:45 AM   #70 (permalink)
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i dunno guys do u really think we need him???? if u ask me we should just save money at this point
We need somebody at SG and their aren't a lot of options. AP is kinda ok at 2 but this move free's AP up to share backup PG with Ukic which he can handle decently since he knows the players and the plays. Better move then last year when we risked backup PG on new players that weren't able to handle it...
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We need somebody at SG and their aren't a lot of options. AP is kinda ok at 2 but this move free's AP up to share backup PG with Ukic which he can handle decently since he knows the players and the plays. Better move then last year when we risked backup PG on new players that weren't able to handle it...
I would rather draft Flynn or draft a PG/combo later in the draft with a send pick. And then S&T AP in a package.
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:03 PM   #72 (permalink)
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^^^^

You dream too much. The NBA is not like a video game, where everyplayer can go to Toronto or the payroll is not out of your pocket. This is reality, and Delfino is the best FA at SG for the Raptors

Ben Gordon (makes no D so it's better to have him away from Toronto) - anyway is 10+ million
Allen Iverson (old, slow and selfish)
Crawford (won't exercise ETO, but if he does it'll be too expensive to sign him)
Kyle Korver (does nothing but shoot the 3 at .386 - Delfino shot .400 2 seasons ago)
Wally Sczerbiak (old, slow, no talent left)
79 years old Michael Finley

IT's over Those are the SG availabe. Raptors have none right now!
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:16 PM   #73 (permalink)
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How much was the Qualified offer?

I just want to know so I can add it to a trade proposal.
it was very low, I think around or under 1 million. It was made just a placeholder apparently (at least that what colangelo said in that radio interview). If we want to later sign him, we can offer him more. I could be wrong though.
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probably about the same amount as what we attempted last season
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:22 PM   #75 (permalink)
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It's something close to 2,5M
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:29 AM   #76 (permalink)
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sign and trade using joey would give us nothing
If Raps just give him the qualifying(team option whatever) and not extend him(about 3.47 milion 1 season more) that would definately have some value as an expiring deal.

Joey, Ukic and Cash would probably net Belli and Watson.
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Old 06-19-2009, 01:51 PM   #77 (permalink)
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If Raps just give him the qualifying(team option whatever) and not extend him(about 3.47 milion 1 season more) that would definately have some value as an expiring deal.

Joey, Ukic and Cash would probably net Belli and Watson.
I doubt it. Raptors are not going to risk 3.5M in ANY situation
Joey worths 1M at most

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Marion 7/8 multi-year deal
Delfino 4M, 3 years
The pick (somehting close to 2M, 2,8 3,6 4,2 5) 5 years
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