Raptors to exercise option to keep Lowry
Old 07-02-2013, 03:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Iíd be intrigued to see what Jason Maxiell gets, Iíd be interested in what it would take to pry Eric Gordon away from the Pelicans (and I really like typing Pelicans, by the way) and Iíd be intrigued to find out what the cost of exploring an Eric Bledsoe trade would be.

According to people Iíve talked to, itís looking like they will indeed exercise the option to keep Kyle Lowry so thatís $5 million they wonít have in their pockets and some people who have an idea of how Masai thinks believes he might not use an amnesty provision to keep some expiring contracts around until the trade deadline.

So there isnít going to be an awful lot of money Ė the mid-level exception of about $5.5 million can be broken up but thatís not going to get an A List free agent or anything close Ė so it might indeed be a dead quiet period.

Not sure thatís prudent but it would appear the only way they can go right now unless there are significant trades in the offing and when you look up and down the roster, thereís not a lot thatís going to have rival GMs drooling.
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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it's better to amnesty kleiza than to keep him as an expiring IF we can go under the cap by 3-4 million. Since that's not likely, I retract my statement that amnestying him is a no-brainer, it only makes sense if we don't tank or if we plan to go 3+ under the cap. Having cap space to absorb a contract is better than having an expiring contract in a trade.
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it's better to amnesty kleiza than to keep him as an expiring IF we can go under the cap by 3-4 million. Since that's not likely, I retract my statement that amnestying him is a no-brainer, it only makes sense if we don't tank or if we plan to go 3+ under the cap. Having cap space to absorb a contract is better than having an expiring contract in a trade.
It could also help in trades where we absorb salary through the 150% rule - if we stay under the tax. A Kleiza amnesty would help with that - if we go over the tax, then we are limited to 125% return.
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it's better to amnesty kleiza than to keep him as an expiring IF we can go under the cap by 3-4 million. Since that's not likely, I retract my statement that amnestying him is a no-brainer, it only makes sense if we don't tank or if we plan to go 3+ under the cap. Having cap space to absorb a contract is better than having an expiring contract in a trade.
An amnesty would also give some flexibility for trades, if Ujiri is looking to move some of the starters. Right now the team is very close to tax. If some team for example wants to offer a player at 12 mil / year expiring + picks for DeRozan, that puts the Raptors over tax.
A Kleiza amnesty would make it easier / cheaper to make such trades.

MLSE may talk about willingness to spend on tax but they probably prefer not to go into tax for a bad team.
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An amnesty would also give some flexibility for trades, if Ujiri is looking to move some of the starters. Right now the team is very close to tax. If some team for example wants to offer a player at 12 mil / year expiring + picks for DeRozan, that puts the Raptors over tax.
A Kleiza amnesty would make it easier / cheaper to make such trades.

MLSE may talk about willingness to spend on tax but they probably prefer not to go into tax for a bad team.
I'm not buying you take on MSLE ant the lux tax situation. They have very deep pockets and in the short term, will try to spend their way into making the team better.

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Why would we amnesty anyone? Fools! Ujiri can just trade them.
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Why would we amnesty anyone? Fools! Ujiri can just trade them.
For garbage maybe?
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I'm not buying you take on MSLE ant the lux tax situation. They have very deep pockets and in the short term, will try to spend their way into making the team better.

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the main problem with going over the luxury tax is not as much the cost this year, but the fact that it will SEVERELY impact our ability to really spend down the road, when we really need it, because the new CBA will overtax teams that go over the luxury limit year after year.
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the main problem with going over the luxury tax is not as much the cost this year, but the fact that it will SEVERELY impact our ability to really spend down the road, when we really need it, because the new CBA will overtax teams that go over the luxury limit year after year.
you make the assumption that the Raptors will ever be able to sign an FA of real significance
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Luckily the first overall pick will only cost a few million to pay
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you make the assumption that the Raptors will ever be able to sign an FA of real significance
We're not getting 1st tier guys, but beyond that, if the team is good, we won't have a problem getting FA, especially if we overpay a little.
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hmm, with the mention of stuckey, how do you think he'd fit if we made that trade, + 1st picks of course
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letting go of Lowry would've made tanking easy. there would be no PG's on the roster.
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We're not getting 1st tier guys, but beyond that, if the team is good, we won't have a problem getting FA, especially if we overpay a little.
I don't agree with that anymore. Based on the old CBA I 100% agree but with the new CBA the Raps signing top talent should be easier - there will only be so many max positions for each team and more guys than positions to fill. Gone are the days of NY where a team has multiple max players with ballooning salaries, aged players that are over paid, etc. Sure they will happen on occasion but no where near like it was.

Others certainly can comment on this better than I but when looking at the new CBA it should help balance the league out - in theory anyways

Preemptive Edit:Yes the Nets are kindof the exception but they built that team from the older CBA and they will get caught like the Knicks did - a bloated team that won't quite make it.

Regarding the thread, I like the team picking up KL's option. The team needs him and his salary - might be easier to trade Lowry this year at a lower price than trying to do a S&T where KL dictates how it will go or having him walk with no compensation.

I'm surprised there is even a debate that his option was picked up - tanking or not - the team can't just give away their players for nothing. The media and other fan bases may dislike the players on the Raps but they are not worth nothing as some spout off here.

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We're not getting 1st tier guys, but beyond that, if the team is good, we won't have a problem getting FA, especially if we overpay a little.
The Raps can get 1st tier guys, IF/when there is legit capspace.
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Also, this was an obvious move, why would the raps not keep their starting PG. He can always be dealt if need be.
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The Raps can get 1st tier guys, IF/when there is legit capspace.
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Also, this was an obvious move, why would the raps not keep their starting PG. He can always be dealt if need be.
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