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Old 06-25-2011, 02:31 AM   #21 (permalink)
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One of the main weaknesses with Jonas coming into this Draft was that he "Struggled with stronger players". Thats in the EUROLEAGUE! theyre are much stronger guys in the NBA. He might be good, but hes gonna struggle a lot.
But sir in Euroleague players come in various shapes and sizes. Varying from 6'8 - 250, 6'11 - 240 to 6'11 - 280, 7'0 - 290. Some of them are more fatty than muscular, which maybe somewhat cushions the impact while banging (under the basket). The question here is how many pounds of muscle can he gain and how much he can improve in a year.
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:03 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I can't wait to see this guy play... I'm excited about this move!
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:23 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Which team had the best 2011 NBA Draft?

Cavaliers
21.2%

Bobcats
11.5%

Timberwolves
8.6%

Wizards
7.8%

Jazz
11.3%

Knicks
6.4%

Kings
5.3%

Spurs
3.4%

Raptors
13.5%

Warriors
5.6%

Pistons
5.3%

Total votes: 6132
(I voted Bobcats)

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Old 06-25-2011, 04:44 AM   #24 (permalink)
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One of the main weaknesses with Jonas coming into this Draft was that he "Struggled with stronger players". Thats in the EUROLEAGUE! theyre are much stronger guys in the NBA. He might be good, but hes gonna struggle a lot.
Dude, really? He is the main C in the team. In his very first Euroleague game Valanciunas did double-double in only 16:47 minutes. He was the best Euroleague rebounder per minute, top 3 efficient Center per minute. How can you say as I quote: "Struggled with stronger players"? The only problem was his playing time in Euroleague, only 15:25 minutes per game.

And you are underestimating Euroleague. Sure NBA has physical stronger players, but in Euroleague most teams play defensive and team basketball, while in NBA it's more of an individual. Euroleague has many talented players. I know Euroleague is not as good as NBA, but the gap between them is not as big as you think. An example is a game between Barcelona (Champions of Euroleague 2009-2010) and LA Lakers (Champions of NBA 2009-2010) in 2010. Barcelona won with the final result 92-88.

Also this fall you will be able to see Valanciunas at Eurobasket 2011 (I am pretty sure he will get into main team). And guess what, Lithuania is in one group with Spain. You will be able to see him playing against Pau and Marc Gasols.

In conclusion, stop being subjective and watch some Euroleague games before commenting about them.

P.S. sorry for my english, it is not my native language.

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Old 06-25-2011, 05:10 AM   #25 (permalink)
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its funny how people are worried about jonas size, but one thing that andrea can do which might make this a perfect pair, is post defend
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:46 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Nah Jonas playing Pf when he come to NBA. NBA aint euroleague. Hes gonna get destroyed if he plays Center. Most likely he will play pf, and Bargnani at center.
You sir, are totally wrong.
If anything Bargnani will go down to power forward. BUt that as well is unlikely.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:30 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Watever hes gonna get wrecked badly. hes too small to play C. In the Euroleague theres no size compared to NBA, so oviously hes gonna play C.
And you're a master on the Euroleague? Enilighten us grand one.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:42 AM   #28 (permalink)
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One of the main weaknesses with Jonas coming into this Draft was that he "Struggled with stronger players". Thats in the EUROLEAGUE! theyre are much stronger guys in the NBA. He might be good, but hes gonna struggle a lot.
The guy is 19 first off. He has got a lot of growing to do still. That skinny frame....its gonna be gone after a few more years of growth and training. 19 is young man, you cant say this guy is going to be destroyed in the NBA, when he hasn't event played in the league yet and still has at least a few more years of growing a filling out to do..... the guy is 19. THe guy is 6'11 and looks like a banger, down low kinda guy, so i dont think he is going to come to the NBA and get scared off.
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