Are the Raptors/Bulls on a collision course to make a trade?
Old 12-12-2009, 11:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Are the Raptors/Bulls on a collision course to make a trade?

Both teams are heading in the wrong direction and are bound to make changes, it's a matter of when. In Toronto i still think not much will be done until the summer, but can these two teams who need something, make a deal? Or is Del Negro the Bulls next move?


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A number of rumors have surrounded coach Vinny Del Negro, but Deng says that the players should be on watch as well.

"We could be traded," he said. "If things aren't going well, change is going to happen somehow. It's just how long it goes on."
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I swear if we can get Noah and Hinrich, we can beat ATL next time we play them.
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I swear if we can get Noah and Hinrich, we can beat ATL next time we play them.
Bosh/Wright/POB

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Noah/Hinrich/Deng


Raptors lineup:

Jack/Hinrich
Derozan/Beli
Deng/Turkoglu
Bargnani/Johnson
Noah/Johnson/Rasho

Bulls lineup:

Rose/Pargo
Salmons/Hunter
Wright/Johnson
Bosh/Thomas
Miller/POB/Gray (They'd be shit @ Centre lol)

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Old 12-12-2009, 11:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
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wouldn't it be more likely then for them to trade Tyrus Thomas, because of that?

i'd start Hedo and Kirk but w/e.
btw Raptors would have to move some pg then, three is a crowd/too much salary, imo it would be logical to send Jack or José along with Bosh in a deal
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I swear if we can get Noah and Hinrich, we can beat ATL next time we play them.
Anyone except Bosh I meant. We can win around a core of Bosh/Hinrich/Noah

They need alot of scoring (in Chi) so they'd probably want Bargnani and one of Calderon/Turk or even Belli.
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Why are you guys so high on Noah and Hinrich? Noah is basically useless on the offensive end and Hinrich is really anything special other than shooting, which we have in Jose. They're defintely not worth trading Bosh for. Maybe Bargs...
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Old 12-12-2009, 03:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I swear if we can get Noah and Hinrich, we can beat ATL next time we play them.
Yeah, Chicago was very competitive against Atlanta on Wednesday ...
and they have Deng and salmons who are very good defenders too
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Why are you guys so high on Noah and Hinrich? Noah is basically useless on the offensive end and Hinrich is really anything special other than shooting, which we have in Jose. They're defintely not worth trading Bosh for. Maybe Bargs...
Who gives a fuck about Noah's offense, we have two bigs right now that average 42ppg combined, how is that going for us? As for Hinrich, he's not bad (not my favourite) and would be an upgrade on the defensive end.

I'll take his 11/12 + 1.8blks. We have enough scoring, it's time we give some up for more defensive balance.
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Why are you guys so high on Noah and Hinrich? Noah is basically useless on the offensive end and Hinrich is really anything special other than shooting, which we have in Jose. They're defintely not worth trading Bosh for. Maybe Bargs...
Ya i agree exactly just cuz noah is having a nice year it doesn't mean hes worth it, he has no offense and hinrich is a down grade on jose, and he isnt even a good defender himself. The only wau i see this going through is if we get both rose and deng for Bosh but i dont think that chicago is willing to part with rose.
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Who gives a fuck about Noah's offense, we have two bigs right now that average 42ppg combined, how is that going for us? As for Hinrich, he's not bad (not my favourite) and would be an upgrade on the defensive end.

I'll take his 11/12 + 1.8blks. We have enough scoring, it's time we give some up for more defensive balance.
Noah would be great alongside Bosh
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Ya i agree exactly just cuz noah is having a nice year it doesn't mean hes worth it, he has no offense and hinrich is a down grade on jose, and he isnt even a good defender himself. The only wau i see this going through is if we get both rose and deng for Bosh but i dont think that chicago is willing to part with rose.
Not worth it??

He's a double double in ppg/rpg and gives you nearly 2blks per game. All that and he makes a whoping 10Mil combined over the next three seasons. An average of 3.3Mil/yr for the next 3 seasons. How is that not worth it?
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Who cares this team has no intensity and we play like total shit....Time to move the team out of T.O
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Not worth it??

He's a double double in ppg/rpg and gives you nearly 2blks per game. All that and he makes a whoping 10Mil combined over the next three seasons. An average of 3.3Mil/yr for the next 3 seasons. How is that not worth it?
Simple hes having a nice year because rose is elevating his play hes ganna end up like tyson chandler once he doesn't have a good pg with him, so unless rose is coming with him hes ganna be useless
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Simple hes having a nice year because rose is elevating his play hes ganna end up like tyson chandler once he doesn't have a good pg with him, so unless rose is coming with him hes ganna be useless
Well, Nosh doesn't score (10ppg)....so Rose isn't helping his offence.


Rose isn't helping Noah get 12rpg or helping him get nearly 2blks per game. And if so how? Since when does a PG help a Center grab boards or block shots?
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There's only 2 Bulls players the Raptors would even consider pursuing.

Deng and
Rose

Could we ship out Turkoglu and Calderon for this? Probably not
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Well, Nosh doesn't score (10ppg)....so Rose isn't helping his offence.


Rose isn't helping Noah get 12rpg or helping him get nearly 2blks per game. And if so how? Since when does a PG help a Center grab boards or block shots?
Ya i no that i ment his scoring will go down, but thats what i ment about him having a good year one good year doesn't mean hell produce those numbers consistantly, look at dwight he was tearing it up last year now look at him, look at calderon, and even hedu they have good years people love them then they go down, he might prove me wrong and be constient but i wouldnt risk trading Bosh for that
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