RaptorHQ's Interview With DX's Givony
Old 06-25-2008, 12:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Good read overall, but what caught my interest was the question regarding Bargnani.

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RaptorsHQ: Looking back at our interview two years ago we talked about Andrea Bargnani. You said he was overrated. Can you comment on where he is as a player right now and whether he can improve his game and play at a level that would be deserving of the number one pick in the draft? The people at Caliper said that his intangibles are off the charts and that’s why they recommended that Toronto draft him. Has that been the case?

Givony: When you looked at Bargnani two years ago you saw what looked to be a decent player. But I didn’t see the number one pick in him, I didn’t see that dog in him to be “that guy.” If you are going to be number one, you better be the best player on your team. It shouldn’t even be close really. Just looking at his profile, I know the guys at Caliper who do the psychological testing had a lot of great things to say about him; how his upside was just off the charts and he was going to be one of the top centers in NBA history, and I think that turned out to be a bit of a nightmare for those guys. Because obviously just watching him and talking to people around him, that is not the case. They may have patted themselves on the back a little too early…

He is a bit of a particular guy in terms of what he wants to work on, what shape he is consistently in, and although I don’t want to write the guy off because I think he can be a decent player, I can say without a whole lot of uncertainty that he should not have been the number one overall pick. Whether he should have gone 5 or 10 or 15… that would have been more realistic for the kind of player he is. He is a very skilled player, he is a pretty good athlete with unbelievable size, he can really pass, but obviously he does not have that kind of aggressiveness and toughness that you need from the number one overall pick.

On the site we talk about how you want to wait before you judge a class. If a guy does well in his first year it’s not necessarily an indication that he’s going to be a great pro. If a guy does badly in his first year there is no correlation to the kind of player he is going to be. The jury is obviously still out, but those are my thoughts on Bargnani thus far.

RaptorsHQ: So the natural follow-up question then is “who should have been the number one that year?”

Givony: We were pretty emphatic at the time that Aldridge should have been the number one pick. There was really no question about that in my eyes. Look at our draft report card…I’m still shocked that the Bulls passed up on him too. There is an argument that Roy should have been number one, and it looks like the Blazers may have the top two players in that class, which we talked about the day after the draft. We liked Roy, but Aldridge was our guy.

That being said we loved Morrison and we have to mention that too. You take credit where credit is due and where you make a mistake you need to man up and admit making the mistake. I think that had not torn his ACL he could have shown something more and hopefully he recovers. Based on year one though he didn’t look great, but you want to give it more than one season. The jury is still out and it looks like he should not have been drafted #3, but we will have to wait and see.
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Jesus, a guy who makes his living on speculation, reviewing and critiquing players using hindsight.

what will they think of next.

never make me read shit like that again Doc.

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No, just trying to open up more people eyes about the real Bargnani. Nice to know I'm not the only one who isn't impressed with him in the slightest.
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Well, thats because you sir, are both a non-gentleman, and a Sloth.

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Bargnani will be fine.

Only guyin that draft that I like better is Roy.
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last year for Bargs was a combination of sophomore slump, nagging injuries (playing for Italy didn't help), chronic sinus problems, and playing a brand new position for the first time ever against the best players in the world.

After his rookie season we all though he was going to be awesome. right?

So i think he will totally come back stronger and improve big time next year.

I have the faith.
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Just give the dude 1 more season!!!!
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Wasn't he better than Bosh last year?
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last year for Bargs was a combination of sophomore slump, nagging injuries (playing for Italy didn't help), chronic sinus problems, and playing a brand new position for the first time ever against the best players in the world.

After his rookie season we all though he was going to be awesome. right?

So i think he will totally come back stronger and improve big time next year.

I have the faith.
Yea same I have faith in him too. The time he stared going into a slump was when he came back from injury and was as you can all tell a slow recover but i think he will be back to normal next seasn
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Wasn't he better than Bosh last year?
If your talking to Benzo, then yes. Everyone else, no.
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