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Old 08-14-2009, 07:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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We're almost two months away from the Raptors' first pre-season game, so let's take stock of where the Raptors rank in the Eastern Conference among the likely starters at all five positions. The numbers next to each player are last season's points, assists and rebounds per 36 minutes, their True Shooting percentage (TS%) and their Player Efficiency Ratings (PER). As always, I welcome your comments explaining how incredibly wrong my rankings are and how I obviously don't watch any real basketball.

1. Rajon Rondo, Boston — 13.0 PTS, 9.0 AST, 5.7 REB, .543 TS%, 18.8 PER
Probably the best defensive and unquestionably the best rebounding point guard in the East, Rondo was a monster in the playoffs (averaging a near triple-double of 16.9, 9.8 and 9.7 per game), he's improved significantly each season, and he's still only 23 years old. Why, exactly, was Danny Ainge reportedly eager to trade him?

2. Devin Harris, New jersey — 21.2 PTS, 6.9 AST, 3.3 REB, .563 TS%, 21.6 PER
He's going to put up huge scoring numbers next season, that's for certain. But since the Nets will probably be one of the three worst teams in the East, will anyone care?

3. Gilbert Arenas, Washington — 2006-07 stats: 25.8 PTS, 5.4 AST, 4.1 REB, .565 TS%, 24.0 PER
Remember this guy? Well, if you believe new Wizards coach Flip Saunders... heeeee's baaaaack! Agent Zero has promised to "turn into a real point guard. To be honest I want to lead the league in triple doubles next season. We have enough scorers on this team where I can try to dominate the game in other ways."

4. Jameer Nelson, Orlando — 19.3 PTS, 6.2 AST, 4.0 REB, .612 TS%, 20.6 PER
It's not easy to get recognition in D12's shadow, but he was arguably the second-best player on the Magic before he got hurt. Orlando was 36-10 after his last healthy regular-season game, and then they went 23-13 through the remainder of the season. He's underrated by many, but not in these rankings.

5. Derrick Rose, Chicago — 16.3 PTS, 6.1 AST, 3.8 REB, .516 TS%, 16.0 PER
Rose gets ranked this highly based on his sheer talent and his impressive playoff series against the Celtics. Many of you would probably put him over Nelson right now, but Rose needs to show more effort on defence, and he'll need to take a big leap to put up Jameer's numbers next season.

6. Jose Calderon, Toronto — 13.5 PTS, 9.4 AST, 3.0 REB, .613 TS%, 18.7 PER
He's the best shooting/playmaking combo at point guard East of Steve Nash. If he comes back healthy, his defence should improve and there's no reason to think he can't return to his 2007-08 level. Jose will be 28 in September — the age when Nash really reached his peak years in Dallas. Let's all hope that Jose works on his alley-oops to DeRozan in pre-season.


7. Mo Williams, Cleveland — 18.3 PTS, 4.2 AST, 3.5 REB, .588 TS%, 17.2 PER
Some people believe Mo is only a quality scorer because he plays next to LeBron, but his scoring numbers were virtually identical the season before in Milwaukee. And with Shaq in the post, he should get even more open looks next season.

8. T.J. Ford, Indiana — 17.6 PTS, 6.2 AST, 4.1 REB, .533 TS%, 16.6 PER
Interesting note: After Rondo, the two best rebounding point guards in the East last season (Nelson and Ford) were both six feet tall. It's impossible to say whether he can stay healthy or whether he'll find another way to lose his starting role, but in the meantime he's still a pretty decent player.

9. D.J. Augustin, Charlotte — 16.0 PTS, 4.7 AST, 2.5 REB, .587 TS%, 14.9 PER
I didn't hear much talk about him last season but he was pretty impressive as a rookie — the .439 3P% particularly stands out. It will be interesting to see what effect Larry Brown has on his development.

10. Louis Williams, Philadelphia — 19.5 PTS, 4.5 AST, 3.1 REB, .513 TS%, 16.5 PER
Easily the most surprising numbers on this list, and he turns 23 in October. Switching from a sixth-man role to starting point guard, I expect his scoring production will drop and his assists will rise.

11. Mike Bibby, Atlanta — 15.5 PTS, 5.2 AST, 3.7 REB, .544 TS%, 16.3 PER
It seems like he's been around forever, but he's still only 31 years old. He's not as productive as he used to be and he's never going to be any good defensively, but he can still shoot (39 percent from beyond the arc last season).

12. Rodney Stuckey, Detroit — 15.1 PTS, 5.5 AST, 3.9 REB, .508 TS%, 14.8 PER
He's as overrated as Jameer Nelson is underrated. He's neither a great playmaker nor a particularly effective scorer. Joe Dumars apparently thinks highly of his potential, however, because he's reportedly been off-limits in trade talks.

13. Mario Chalmers, Miami — 11.2 PTS, 5.5 AST, 3.1 REB, .548 TS%, 13.3 PER
Instructions: Give the ball to D-Wade and get out of the way. He's surprisingly sneaky on defence — he averaged 2.2 steals per 36 minutes in his 2008-09 rookie season.

14. Chris Duhon, New York — 10.9 PTS, 7.0 AST, 3.0 REB, .570 TS%, 12.2 PER
We're now deep into "starting points who should really be backups" territory. His improved three-point shooting last sesaon (39 percent) will continue to suit him well in Mike D'Antoni system.

15. Luke Ridnour, Milwaukee — 12.2 PTS, 6.5 AST, 3.9 REB, .500 TS%, 12.2 PER
Of course, Luke is just a placeholder until Brandon Jennings is ready to start. That might not be long once the Bucks realize they have the worst starting point guard in the Eastern Conference. I mean, it's not like Jennings can be worse than the worst, right?
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1. Rajon Rondo
2. Devin Harris
3. Derrick Rose
4. Jose Calderon
5. Jameer Nelson

Gil will never be a "true" point guard.
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Very soon will Rose be above all those.
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Harris
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calderon
Nelson
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Arenas didn't even play a game and he is ahead of Valderon BS
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Arenas didn't even play a game and he is ahead of Valderon BS
And he claims he wants to lead the league in triple doubles. I can understand being optimistic, but...fuck off Gil.
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i think the list is pretty on point.
if i was a homer, i'd too would put Calderon in top 4 behind rose, harris, rondo
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:59 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Pretty good list.

I'm not as high on Harris though. He's a brilliant scorer but is he going to keep his teammates involved?
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Calderon is the best in the East
Nelson
William
Rose
Rondo
Harris


Gilbert arenas isn't suppose to be in this list he missed too much game the past 2 year

Calderon is really underrated I will say it again the only point guard I would trade for Calderon are Deron William and Chris Paul no other
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Harris
Rondo
Rose
Nelson
Calderon
M. Williams

...I just don't see Arenas as a PG
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Stuckey should be higher.
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This is mssed up. I think Rondo is good but he is often overhyped. It's more like Harris, Arenas, Nelson, Rose, Rondo, Calderon. Just because Rajon played well in the playoffs doesn't make him the greatest pointguard.
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I can't see rondo as the top pg in the east. Mo williams is currently top pg in the east . Jose is definitely in the top 5. Gill doesn't belong on that list because he hasn't played in 2 years.
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Mo Williams is not the top pg. He needs Lebron to create his shot. Just wait until Arenas comes back. I hear he's better than ever.
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I'm glad he's not looking at Rodney Stuckey through rose coloured glasses like so many people seem to be doing. I've never been that impressed with him.
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Calderon is not a top 5 PG of the East
He is a top 5 PG of the NBA
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^Nahhh that's a stretch

Rose is a beast, he'll probably be on top of that last by the end of the season.
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"turn into a real point guard. To be honest I want to lead the league in triple doubles next season. We have enough scorers on this team where I can try to dominate the game in other ways."
Cocky bastard, but he might actually be good this year.

I find Sessions should be there but probably of his consistency he's not, and Rodney Stuckey being ranked that low is a +100.
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Arenas is the best PG in the east and he's gonna bitch slap everybody back into reality REAL soon.

Seriously though, Rose might reach #1 this year. Arenas is a top three but he's coming back from a tough injury.

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