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Old 11-28-2009, 11:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Raptors stencils have begun popping up in the downtown area as Toronto Maple Leafs logos are being scrubbed from city sidewalks.

"Toronto Raptors Nation: We Prefer Winning" sidewalk ads were at Union Station yesterday.

"These are not ours," Rajani Kamath, of Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment, said of the stencils. "The Raptors are not involved in any chalk art or stencil art programs."

She didn't know who was behind the drawings of the basketball team's logo.

The city this week ordered Grassroots Advertising to remove Leafs logos on downtown sidewalks within 48 hours. The logos were part of an advertising campaign to mark the start of NHL season.

The blue emblems, accompanied by the phrase, "Leafs Nation. Spirit is Everything," began appearing in early October outside subway stations and along major city streets such as King, Bathurst, Jarvis and Queen Sts.

Grassroots had most of the blue-and-white Leafs logos removed by yesterday.

The agency's vice-president, Michael Gillissie, said he's aware of the Raptor ads but they have nothing to do with his firm. "I am not sure who are doing those," he said. "They must be a big Raptors fan."



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Old 11-28-2009, 11:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good! i like that. I hate the fact that around the new entrance there is a shit load of painted Leafs flags on the floor, but not a single raps.

I hate the way this fucken city, even the organization itself treats basketball and the raptors
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Nice. Fuck the leafs.

On the Fan yesterday they were talking about sports teams in Toronto and said that the Leafs jersey's were dead last in sales and that every game has empty boxes at leaf games. I love to hear that. Leaf fans might be waking up and are unwilling to fork out the money it takes to watch crappy hockey. Although it also has to do with the economy.
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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oh, yes, fuck the leafs, you know, the team that basically is the one and ONLY reason there is even an NBA team in Toronto.

Fuck them.

Use your head
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Nice. Fuck the leafs.

On the Fan yesterday they were talking about sports teams in Toronto and said that the Leafs jersey's were dead last in sales and that every game has empty boxes at leaf games. I love to hear that. Leaf fans might be waking up and are unwilling to fork out the money it takes to watch crappy hockey. Although it also has to do with the economy.
yet they have revenues of $168 mil, $29 mil more than the 2nd ranked team
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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oh, yes, fuck the leafs, you know, the team that basically is the one and ONLY reason there is even an NBA team in Toronto.

Fuck them.

Use your head
One and only reason there is an NBA team? Gotta love puckheads.
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Oh really??

I love it.

Please, explain how this franchise came here, and what has been done in the last 15 years to keep it here.

Do you know what happened when Bitove was getting outta dodge????
Do you know what goes on at the MLSE?

The Toronto Maple Leafs are one of the biggest can't miss franchises in North America. Do you really think the Raptors;

A) would even have been able to come to Toronto without help from the Maple LEafs.
B) Could have continued to exist through the last 15 years of ineptitude?

Call me a puckhead Jeff, thats golden, it really is.
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Oh really??

I love it.

Please, explain how this franchise came here, and what has been done in the last 15 years to keep it here.

Do you know what happened when Bitove was getting outta dodge????
Do you know what goes on at the MLSE?

The Toronto Maple Leafs are one of the biggest can't miss franchises in North America. Do you really think the Raptors;

A) would even have been able to come to Toronto without help from the Maple LEafs.
B) Could have continued to exist through the last 15 years of ineptitude?

Call me a puckhead Jeff, thats golden, it really is.
Sure the Raptors owe a debt of gratitude to the leafs for coming into existence but that doesn't mean anything now...What's done is done it was a while back now and the Raptors have proven they can make it as a stand-alone franchise.

If anything the leafs (and they're coverage) are now a detriment to the growth and popularity of the raptors.
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I agree with you Jeff, Fuck the leafs.

This city is dominated by hockey to the point that it makes me compleatly sick. TSN should just be called hockey central beucase thats all they show. The FAN should also extend hockey central from 2 hours to 24 hours beucase lets face it, 80% of the time if they arnt talking about the leafs, they are defineatly talking about Hockey....

Question. On the fan, has anyone heard them talk about basketball? (outside of the raps who barely get talked about compaired to leafs and hockey) I listen to the fan in the car all the time and i never hear anything about basket ball thats like (Hockey central which is now two fucken hours long right in the middle of the day)...
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Sure the Raptors owe a debt of gratitude to the leafs for coming into existence but that doesn't mean anything now...What's done is done it was a while back now and the Raptors have proven they can make it as a stand-alone franchise.

If anything the leafs (and they're coverage) are now a detriment to the growth and popularity of the raptors.
+1

Exactly. And saying the leafs are the reason the Raps are still here is pissing all over the fans that show up every game. The team has a large fanbase and a bigger fanbase among younger people the the loafs.
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I agree with you Jeff, Fuck the leafs.

This city is dominated by hockey to the point that it makes me compleatly sick. TSN should just be called hockey central beucase thats all they show. The FAN should also extend hockey central from 2 hours to 24 hours beucase lets face it, 80% of the time if they arnt talking about the leafs, they are defineatly talking about Hockey....

Question. On the fan, has anyone heard them talk about basketball? (outside of the raps who barely get talked about compaired to leafs and hockey) I listen to the fan in the car all the time and i never hear anything about basket ball thats like (Hockey central which is now two fucken hours long right in the middle of the day)...

It's sickening really. And you're right about the fan. It always kills me when they talk about hockey in the 11 o'clock hour when a 2hr hockey show is on @12pm every day. For the most part the only time basketball is talked about is on Jack's show and a little on McCowan's show.
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the Raps (MLSE) should do a better job at getting a good TV/media contract then
If TSN is too hockey oriented they should look for another station, isn't there more than 1 sports channel in Canada?
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the Raps (MLSE) should do a better job at getting a good TV/media contract then
If TSN is too hockey oriented they should look for another station, isn't there more than 1 sports channel in Canada?
Agreed. They should give the games to the Score and SN + every sunday game to CBC. And why the hell doesn't RapsTV have games?
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I agree with you Jeff, Fuck the leafs.

This city is dominated by hockey to the point that it makes me compleatly sick. TSN should just be called hockey central beucase thats all they show. The FAN should also extend hockey central from 2 hours to 24 hours beucase lets face it, 80% of the time if they arnt talking about the leafs, they are defineatly talking about Hockey....

Question. On the fan, has anyone heard them talk about basketball? (outside of the raps who barely get talked about compaired to leafs and hockey) I listen to the fan in the car all the time and i never hear anything about basket ball thats like (Hockey central which is now two fucken hours long right in the middle of the day)...
Agreed - and no, I think you get a small blip here or there where they bring Colangelo on but that generally revolves around the business of the sport - McCown touches base on it here or there.

Beyond that, the one commercial that always made me laugh is the one with the little kid going into the shop asking for a job and the old bastard behind the counter grumbles, "Shouldn't you be playin' HOCKEY!?". Yes. Of all the sports a low-income family is striving to put their children in, it's one with start-up costs of over $1000.

And c'mon, you guys don't like Rod Black's insightful commentary at the half?!
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the Raps (MLSE) should do a better job at getting a good TV/media contract then
If TSN is too hockey oriented they should look for another station, isn't there more than 1 sports channel in Canada?
Let's face it, MLSE makes more money having the Leafs reported first and most, why would they go out of their way to sully top dollar?

The TV stations are going to dedicate the most time and spend the most money on material that turns the highest profit, it's not very complicated. Right now, that's the Leafs and that's hockey. That will not change soon.

I'm all for sports channels equal time to every sport to justify being called, you know, "sports" channels and not "hockey" channels, but wake up and smell the coffee - this is the for-profit corporate world we're talking about here. They're not out to make friends, sorry.
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MLSE has many sports teams and they don't have their own channel
Raptors TV/ Leafs TV
I don't know what that is
Is Raptors TV just NBA TV

just get a channel like MSG and YES in NY/NJ
control revenue, MLSE likes profit
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For the most part the only time basketball is talked about is on Jack's show and a little on McCowan's show.
Ya, and thats mostly about the raps. Never do i hear anyone talk abou oh that game agaisnt boston and orlando or w/e its always deconstructing every hockey team in the NHL, but they barely ever talk about the raps let alone the NBA
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Ya, and thats mostly about the raps. Never do i hear anyone talk abou oh that game agaisnt boston and orlando or w/e its always deconstructing every hockey team in the NHL, but they barely ever talk about the raps let alone the NBA
Very true. They sit there for hours on end disecting every NHL team, most of which nobody gives a shit about and every other sport is minimal and most local.
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Hockey - popular
Basketball - not so much.

If you were running a business, which would you cater to? Get a grip, guys.
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Hockey - popular
Basketball - not so much.

If you were running a business, which would you cater to? Get a grip, guys.
Among youger demographics

Basketball- growing popularity

Soccer- Growing popularity

Hockey- losing popularity

McCowan has been saying for over a year now that they get less and less calls about hockey when they take calls from sports fans in this City. Puckheads in this city will never acknowledge that hockey has lost some popularity though and that's really also the problem with Toronto media. They're so afraid that any other sport gets any momentum that they constantly throw hockey on, even games nobody gives a shit about. They're the ones that need to get a grip. Then again there's no talking to these people, they're still living in the past and will never admit deminished interest.
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