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Old 07-10-2013, 02:12 PM   #321 (permalink)
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So you'd rather based your opinion on his 4 years of college, or his 4 years of NBA? Lots of successful college guys don't make it in the league. It's one thing to overpower skinny college guys vs grown men in the majors.

I'd be thrilled if he shows us a different side, but what I've seen from him so far suggests otherwise. Which is fine to me, at his salary, he's plenty good. More useful than gray who's in the same neighborhood.
That wasn't really my point.

My point is, the guy is obviously good for something beyond being a goon.

He knows how to play on some level.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:13 PM   #322 (permalink)
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Yeah, I've never thought of him as dirty like dishing out flagrants. but there are some guys who aren't particularly know for committing a lot of fouls but you're not surprised when they do a flagrant! they're sly players. hansbrough isn't sly but he does A LOT of hard fouls! goon is the word. he goes out there and roughs up opponents. The hard fouls are often harder and more reckless than they need to be imo. some of it is to stop the opponent and some is to say "don't try that again." and a lot of people like that attitude, I don't have a problem with it I just feel he takes it way too far. he's deliberately reckless.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:21 PM   #323 (permalink)
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He IS a hack and a goon, though...


and a cheat, to boot...
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:21 PM   #324 (permalink)
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I fucking hate TH. But for 3 million and an option, or even 6 million over 2 years, that's a steal these days for a decent bench player considering all we even did was overpay in the past. At least it will be nice to see some defensive effort and a hard foul once in a while.

Btw... dirty and flagrants don't have to go together. Reggie Evans was one of the dirtiest in the league when playing for us and it was mostly elbows thrown low, undercutting guys "accidently" etc. Hanbrough is a little of that bit alot of a mouthpiece too.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:26 PM   #325 (permalink)
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Can't wait until some opponent is driving the lane, looks up and sees TH, and thinks " oh fuck, Psycho-T" and JV promptly swats his shot away to KL who takes it all the way for a flush. The ACC will go nuts. And the hate will be gone.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:28 PM   #326 (permalink)
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That wasn't really my point.

My point is, the guy is obviously good for something beyond being a goon.

He knows how to play on some level.
yeah, I agree - I don't know he's being called a dirty goon. He's just super aggressive, but he doesn't do bowen type of things, like sliding under shooters to get them injured. In terms of skills, he's a decent finisher and will overpower people if they're not on top of their game. He's not starter material and has limited upside at his age, but he will give you consistent production in limited minutes.

It's a good deal, but I don't really get the enthusiasm about him, in the grand scheme he's still just a level removed from scrubness. He'll man the fort for one year and, barring any surprises, he'll be gone the next summer.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:31 PM   #327 (permalink)
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considering all we even did was overpay in the past.
I don't think we ever overpayed for a bench guy, definitely not in the past 6-7 years.

We overpaid for our starting free agents, guys like Jose, Demar, Bargnani and for starting level free agents like hedu and kapono. And none of those contracts were horrible, just overpriced.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:36 PM   #328 (permalink)
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Fuck this guy. I don't like.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:39 PM   #329 (permalink)
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I don't think we ever overpayed for a bench guy, definitely not in the past 6-7 years.

We overpaid for our starting free agents, guys like Jose, Demar, Bargnani and for starting level free agents like hedu and kapono. And none of those contracts were horrible, just overpriced.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:40 PM   #330 (permalink)
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Marcus Banks.

And Kapono was not a starting level free agent.
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Marcus Banks.

And Kapono was not a starting level free agent.
we traded for banks.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:49 PM   #333 (permalink)
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Good signing for the Raps. Decent price too. If BC was here he'd be given the full MLE. A player you hate to face but love to have. Also helps that he came from a winning culture/system at UNC.
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One word. Yogi. :cookie:

6 years. 24 mil.
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we traded for banks.
Yeah, I know, but he was still overpaid, and for far too long, and he didn't even play.
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Only reason he's here cuz BC tried to screw over NYK in their "attempts" to get Nash lol.
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:03 PM   #337 (permalink)
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Guys, guys - we've overpaid often, for every kind of player imaginable. Let's leave it at that.
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One word. Yogi. :cookie:

6 years. 24 mil.
Yogi seemed to get shorter every year he was here!
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:36 PM   #339 (permalink)
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FWIW Yogi and a 1st rounder went to Cleveland For Lemon Murray.

The 1st rounder ended up being Jared Dudley.
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:58 PM   #340 (permalink)
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I don't think we ever overpayed for a bench guy, definitely not in the past 6-7 years.
You've seriously gone off the deep end with some of your posts lately. First, thinking that Rudy Gay could be the 2nd best SF in the league with the proper coaching and mentality while conveniently forgetting about Durant and Melo, plus others at SF who could be debatable in your eyes but not the eyes of anyone who knows that Rudy is what he is, and the likelihood he changes his game for the better to become better than a player like Paul George has less than 1% chance of happening. Previously, your ridiculous comments about Torontos attendance and team value being bolstered since BC took the reigns which was completely false, and now this.

With regard to BC overpaying bench players, there's 2 that immediately come to mind:

Jason Kapono(if you seriously think he was a starting caliber player at that point you're as deluded as BC), and obviously Linas Kleiza.

So, as you said, we've never overpaid bench guys in the past 6-7 years. Yeah. Sure.
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