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Old 12-06-2012, 07:18 AM   #41 (permalink)
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upon entry barg jack up a 3 right away, why. cold off the bench with a bad shooting night just why

im tired of barg
calderon
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and casey
in that order
I'd swap bc and calderon.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:24 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Bargnani's D is atrocious. He stands and watches. Some people miss it cause they don't see Barganani near the play, as our other guys fly back to help, and he just stands in the middle of the paint. He looks like a part of the court, it's easy not to notice him, but it's abysmal.
Even the most blinkered AB groupies must have seen Tyreke's drive on the left side, c'mon where are these myths coming from?
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:39 AM   #43 (permalink)
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It's clear there are divisions in the locker room and guys like Lowry and DD hate playing with Bargs. There's zero chemistry whatsoever.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:39 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I'd swap bc and calderon.
i guess they are interchangeable
well look at what Calderon done in his last 2 games
against Denver 4pts/3to/0.25fg% this are crucial TO in the 2nd quarter since all of these are converted into points
against Sacramento 3pts/1to/0.33fg%
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:41 AM   #45 (permalink)
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i guess they are interchangeable
well look at what Calderon done in his last 2 games
against Denver 4pts/3to/0.25fg% this are crucial TO in the 2nd half since all of these are converted into points
against Sacramento 3pts/1to/0.33fg%

Even when he has a good "stat" game he costs us points at the defensive end and that diminishes the good he actually does.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:57 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Davis had to sit when he picked up his 4th foul. The problem is he didn't come back in with 3 minutes left.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:29 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Against Sacramento, 2010 first-round draft pick Ed Davis performed well -- not the first time this has happened in recent weeks. Davis finished the game on the bench and watched Bargnani play out the loss on the floor. The scoreboard showed the team trailing by 12 when Bargnani left the game and Davis entered. It later showed the Raptors ahead by one in the fourth when Davis exited and Bargnani returned. When it was over, the scoreboard showed a seven-point defeat -- the Raptors eighth loss in nine tries.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:53 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Jack was on with Tim and Sid and said he suspected they are trying to keep Andrea's value from plummeting. Sid asked what would be more costly to his value, sitting through the 4th quarter or shooting 3-14. There was no clear answer to that. Joy.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:57 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Ed Davis has played fairly well with the limited minutes this season.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:13 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Leo and Matt drove me nuts pre game. They went on about how Ed gives you the same numbers whether he plays 35 minutes or 25 minutes and that he needs to earn the extra playing time. Ok. Can someone show me where he played close to 35 minutes? He's lucky if he gets 25. Are they that stupid, or just their regular stupid selves with BC asking them to make life a little easier for the coach as he gets ordered to play the hub over the player that is in fact earning minutes. This team is such a bush league shit show.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:22 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Hes shooting a career low this year...His one skill that was useful on the floor was his shooting, and now every other night he puts up dreadfull shooting performances.

Then in the post game scrum he says " I don't worry about my shot, it will fall"

How about seeing a psychiatrist or just going oldschool and do shooting drills at the gym.

Becoming very difficult to support him when he's shooting like that.
I'm a big supporter, not really a secret here, but how true a statement that is.

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It's clear there are divisions in the locker room and guys like Lowry and DD hate playing with Bargs. There's zero chemistry whatsoever.
Clear? I find it difficult that you know KL and DD hate playing with Bargs and there is zero chemistry and there is a locker room division.

Maybe you should post a link to back up that statement or out right say its your opinion.
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Leo and Matt drove me nuts pre game. They went on about how Ed gives you the same numbers whether he plays 35 minutes or 25 minutes and that he needs to earn the extra playing time. Ok. Can someone show me where he played close to 35 minutes? He's lucky if he gets 25. Are they that stupid, or just their regular stupid selves with BC asking them to make life a little easier for the coach as he gets ordered to play the hub over the player that is in fact earning minutes. This team is such a bush league shit show.
The most he's played in a game this season is 28 minutes (10pts/6reb/1blk)
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The most genius play here is not to trade Bargnani right now, but rather to trade the others overperforming and wait until he rebounds..... wait, what? There are no others overperforming... and what's that? Bargnani never rebounds? We're fucked!!!

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Old 12-06-2012, 08:31 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Casey is fucked. Why would he play someone who is clearly cold and has been on the bench for so long? How much more fucked in the head could you get.
Agree... Casey either has no spine or he is the worst coach in in the history of the NBA... He has to go
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:34 PM   #55 (permalink)
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This season is making sick...
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:01 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Leo and Matt drove me nuts pre game. They went on about how Ed gives you the same numbers whether he plays 35 minutes or 25 minutes and that he needs to earn the extra playing time. Ok. Can someone show me where he played close to 35 minutes? He's lucky if he gets 25. Are they that stupid, or just their regular stupid selves with BC asking them to make life a little easier for the coach as he gets ordered to play the hub over the player that is in fact earning minutes. This team is such a bush league shit show.
How else would they keep their jobs this long, repeating the exact same phrases in every game? and just so I forget, do I lift my feet and try to block the shot?
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:32 AM   #57 (permalink)
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It's clear there are divisions in the locker room and guys like Lowry and DD hate playing with Bargs. There's zero chemistry whatsoever.
Honestly.... I wouldn't be surprised if the whole team is tired of him at this point.

Watching him dog it on D, not help out on the glass, and chuck bricks... all while still getting 35+ min/gm HAS to be annoying some of those guys.

I know that if I were Ed or Amir's position I'd be PISSED.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:49 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Its frustrating talking about this because its clear that the team is better without him right now,all this talk about value for Bargnani is an illusion. Teams are either gonna want him or not and the Raps just have to make due with the return they get whether they feel its equal or not. I don't know who managemnet and the coaching staff is trying to please but the longer Bargnani remains with the team,the more he hinders other players development and the clubs overall success. He's nothing more than a Vladamir Radmonovic at this point, Move the F**k on all ready!! its over,he's not gonna amount to much! Ship him off to L.A., Chicago,somwhere he can be effective and not have to live up to the unrealsitic expectation of being an impact night in and night out as it is hoped in Toronto.
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Selling AB right now is a fool's move. Book it. You don't sell low unless you don't see him ever playing better... and if you think AB isn't capable of more than how he's playing right now, then you're just biased. If you think he is broken and can't be fixed, then fine... sell him for 50 cents on the dollar and move forward. We're already broke here in terms of talent, selling low just makes us more poor and no draft pick to boot.
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Selling AB right now is a fool's move. Book it. You don't sell low unless you don't see him ever playing better... and if you think AB isn't capable of more than how he's playing right now, then you're just biased. If you think he is broken and can't be fixed, then fine... sell him for 50 cents on the dollar and move forward. We're already broke here in terms of talent, selling low just makes us more poor and no draft pick to boot.
Bargs has played over 400 games.... he "played like an all-star" for what? 13 of those last season? And maybe another dozen during the rest of his career?

I'd say that we have a pretty darn good idea of what he really is at this point.
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