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Old 08-22-2009, 04:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I never once said Belinelli in the post you responded to.
Due to the magic of reading comprehension, I was also looking at this post:

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If that's the case, it's either Belinelli or Jack. Because no way is Wright starting at SG.
Yup, there's Belinelli.
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Old 08-22-2009, 04:24 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yup, there's Belinelli.
My point was that in the post you were responding to i said that we have 7SG's and didn't mention one by name. So if you were looking at another post why not respond to that one specifically. Just found it odd that's all.
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Where was this inconsistent career comment and why do you keep bringing it up? The same could be said for Barganani and he gave him 50 million and he starts at C.

Colangelo and Triano have done nothing but praise him.

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Brian Colangelo is confident that Wright will play a large role in improving the Raptors defensive fortunes this season and will provide much needed toughness to a team that was often criticized for being “too soft”. “The thing I like to hear about him, from Rick Carlisle himself, is that he might have been his toughest defender and can guard three positions on the perimeter 1’s , 2’s and 3’s, even some very quick ones. Also, he’s a tough kid. He might have been his (Carlisle’s) toughest kid. If there was a fracas on the court last year he was the first guy to get his chin in there. What did we need more than anything last year?…perimeter defense and toughness.”

Both Triano and Colangelo do not see him as a “throw in” player on this team or a footnote in the Hedo Turkoglu trade. With Antoine Wright the coach and general manager see someone they can depend on late in close games to defend the basket. That is something the club was sorely lacking last year and as a result saw victories slip through their fingers in the late stages of games. Don’t be surprised to see Antoine Wright playing key minutes late in ball games. In fact there is a very real possibility that we could see Wright starting at the 2 or 3 positions at some point during the season.
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jack will not be the starting ... doesn't make any sense. why not wright? that would leave bellinelli as the top scoring option on the second unit. wright wouldnt have to end games, but he is a better fit starting at the 2 than jj.
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Ummm....from Acie's post above, it might seem that Wright may be the better player to end games with.
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Where was this inconsistent career comment and why do you keep bringing it up? The same could be said for Barganani and he gave him 50 million and he starts at C.

Colangelo and Triano have done nothing but praise him.
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Ummm....from Acie's post above, it might seem that Wright may be the better player to end games with.
I think at the end of games you want guys that can score. Winning teams look to outscore oppostion in the half of the 4th.
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I think at the end of games you want guys that can score. Winning teams look to outscore oppostion in the half of the 4th.
That's why we have Bosh, Turk, Bargnani and Calderon. Too many people think it's all about offence. 4th quarter play is all about getting defensive stops and Wright will help us do that. He did it in Dallas, can't see why he wouldn't be able to do it here.
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Wow in the article, they put Joe Johnson under Iquodala. AI is a great player but not better than Johnson.
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Where was this inconsistent career comment and why do you keep bringing it up? The same could be said for Barganani and he gave him 50 million and he starts at C.

Colangelo and Triano have done nothing but praise him.
He brought it up in his interview this week.

"He's had a sporadic career so far" @ 11:55 of the interview

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He went on to talk about his impressive toughness, which is obvious. I'm glad we have him believe it or not. I love pretty much every player we got this summer.


In all honesty, i have no problems with Wright starting and i'd prefer Belinelli coming off the bench and lighting up the other teams second units. But we have no backup SF other then him, so i still say Derozan probably starts the season as our SG. But really it'll be up to the players come training camp. Who ever impresses the most will get the starting spot, it's basically that simple.

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Wow in the article, they put Joe Johnson under Iquodala. AI is a great player but not better than Johnson.
Their offensive numbers (per 36 minutes, check the blog post) are practically identical and Iguodala is younger and a better defender. How is Johnson better?
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Their offensive numbers (per 36 minutes, check the blog post) are practically identical and Iguodala is younger and a better defender. How is Johnson better?
Plus Iggy is a lot more athletic and has better overall stats. I think I heard someone call him mini-lebron becase he averages 19 6 and 5.
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If that's the case, it's either Belinelli or Jack. Because no way is Wright starting at SG. He's going to come off the bench behind Turkoglu and then in certain situations he'll play some SG. The SG rotation will mostly consist of Beli/Derozan/Jack imo.

Mind you, Jack starting makes no sense when he'll be expected to play 18-20MPG at PG. Therefore him and Jose start the game and then Jack replaces Jose? Makes no sense.
So that leaves beli....and that make sense since he is BC's favorite and a leader on Italian team...I wont mind starting the season with beli playing the position...plus we can sell more Raptors jerseys in italy ...which give Raptors higher good will than most nba teams...
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I fully expect Wright to be the starting SG at the beginning of the year. A month or 2 in, once things start to get settled and the coaching staff has a feel for the team, who knows?

I don't see how Belli makes a good starter unless he really is a lot better than his career would suggest so far, and I won't be convinced of that, despite all the glowing optimism around here about him, until he shows it on the court. I have a feeling that he is going to disappoint a lot of fanboys around here. I'm not saying he won't contribute, but I have really tempered my expectations and don't think we'll see much more than he has shown to this point in the league. On the other hand, Wright and his defensive abilities would seem to be taylor-made to step into the starting line-up with the other 4 players who are a little more focused on the offensive side of the game.
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Is Iggy really a 2 guard?

Johnson isn't that bad of a defender and has better ball handling skills, better court vision, is a better scorer and actually as far as I'm concerned is a more talented player.
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Plus Iggy is a lot more athletic and has better overall stats. I think I heard someone call him mini-lebron becase he averages 19 6 and 5.
No he doesn't.

Their stats are almost identical except that Johnson has a significantly higher FT % and 3 point %.

Iggy also has never averaged over 20 points a season.

Johnson has done it the last 4 years.
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I don't see how Belli makes a good starter unless he really is a lot better than his career would suggest so far, and I won't be convinced of that, despite all the glowing optimism around here about him, until he shows it on the court. I have a feeling that he is going to disappoint a lot of fanboys around here. I'm not saying he won't contribute, but I have really tempered my expectations and don't think we'll see much more than he has shown to this point in the league. On the other hand, Wright and his defensive abilities would seem to be taylor-made to step into the starting line-up with the other 4 players who are a little more focused on the offensive side of the game.
I'm going to assume you haven't watched him much in his career, going by that assessment.
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I'm going to assume you haven't watched him much in his career, going by that assessment.
I can't say I have his career on my hard drive or anything as you more than likely do, but I've seen him play on more than a few occaisions. Not live however.

I wish I could be as openly optimistic about him as you are, but other than lighting up the summer league a couple times he hasn't exactly earned himself much in the NBA. I think BC made a great trade to bring him in, and it could very well work out beautifully in the long run, and I hope it does. But to anoint him as a starter when he's proven nothing makes little sense when you have a guy in Wright who has started for pretty good team and likely addresses a couple of glaring weaknesses in the unit.
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