Question: Do we have to trade Marion quickly?
Old 07-07-2009, 01:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Question: Do we have to trade Marion quickly?

To sign Turk, don't we have to renounce everyone including Marion by July 8? Does that mean we have to do this sign and trade with the Mavs today?
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pretty much, yeah.

If we renounce, we can still do the S&T, but the Bird rights would be lost and he could only get one year guaranteed, IIRC.
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yay... finally, closure.
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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But do we REALLY have to renounce Marion before trading him?

I think the real trick BC is trying to pull off is NOT to renounce Marion, but instead sign-and trade him while clearing as much of cap space as possible by throwing Hump into the deal and not taking any salaries back. In fact, the absolutely best case scenario would have been for another team under the cap to sign Hedo for us and then trade him to us for a newly signed Marion while Marion goes to Dallas.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Couldn't BC just hold off signing Turk if he wanted to and than buy himself more time to move Marion?
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Does Turk want to wait? Maybe BC says wait 24 hours and Turk bolts for Portland...wouldn't that be a treat

But yeah, I guess if Turk wants to try to win he'd wait a few hours...or, or, or, not take all our cap space...but I think he'll just opt to wait for BC to fix our issues cuz of his (largely overvalued/overpaid) salary
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Can't Dallas sign Hedo Turkoglu and then trade him along with Stackhouse for Marion & Hump?


2 S&T= everyone happy?

Or just straight up S&T both?
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I don't think sign and trades work well without the team that has retained rights or that they played on...like we would still not have the MLE if thats what your hoping for...not to mention we'd still be taking back Stackhouses 2 mill contract, something i don't think BC wants, so a third team would be needed to take jerry off our hands.
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Can't Dallas sign Hedo Turkoglu and then trade him along with Stackhouse for Marion & Hump?


2 S&T= everyone happy?

Or just straight up S&T both?
Does Dallas have enough cap space to sign Turk? My guess is NO, they don't!
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How many hours does BC have left? He must be in a frantic state right now. Time for Panic mode
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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How many hours does BC have left? He must be in a frantic state right now. Time for Panic mode
They need to put their heads together and get this shit done.

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$20 this deal won't go done today.
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Can't Dallas sign Hedo Turkoglu and then trade him along with Stackhouse for Marion & Hump?


2 S&T= everyone happy?

Or just straight up S&T both?
If they had cap to sign Hedo why they'd want to S&T for Marion... It was awful
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BTW we need to sign and trade him now, otherwise we lose his bird rights and Marion gets only a full MLE. I think he'll sign with Dallas even for 7M a year
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Couldn't BC just hold off signing Turk if he wanted to and than buy himself more time to move Marion?
Yes he can, he doesn't need to renounce Marion until just before he signs Turk. He could push it off till August if he so chooses but risks the chance that someone entices Turk to change his mind. He's not ours until we sign him on the dotted line and tomorrow is just the first day that that process can transpire. There was an instance where a team pushed it off until August.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
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$20 this deal won't go done today.
yep. thanks to Marion and Co., things are very complicated. I know BC is doing anything and everything he can so that we'd get someone/some people in return for Marion. BC won't let us down. he should take all the time that he needs.
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Turk said he has chosen T.O. not just because of the offer, but it's also through the influence of his wife. maybe Turk can wait awhile and let BC sort out Marion's scenario first? it'd be much easier for everyone. Turk said he wouldn't change his decision even if the Raps offered the same value Portland did. so I guess this guy really wants to be here.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:13 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Can't Dallas sign Hedo Turkoglu and then trade him along with Stackhouse for Marion & Hump?


2 S&T= everyone happy?

Or just straight up S&T both?
firstly dallas doesnt have cap room

AND even if they did, they'd have to wait 30 days to do it.
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so, 1.5hrs left and no word...
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