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Old 06-01-2015, 05:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rondae Hollis-Jefferson slated to do draft workout with Raptors this week + Rashad Vaughn. Canadians Mo Walker and Stef Nastic expected too
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Old 06-02-2015, 08:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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will pangos and booker workout too?
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Old 06-03-2015, 07:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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First workout today:

G- Jerian Grant, G- Chavaughn Lewis, F- Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, F - Justin Anderson, C - Maurice Walker and C- Dallin Bachynski
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The guys I've already compiled a scouting report for:

Jerian Grant, PG, 22 years old, 15th in DX Top 100
Measurements: 6'4", 198 lbs, 6'8" wingspan, no max vert data
Scouting report:
Athleticism: Quick first step, not exceptionally explosive vertically, not particularly strong.
Offence: Unselfish, good passer, decent shooter, good shot selection, poor finishing inside due to lack of strength. Can hit the three, though not great (34%).
Defence: Poor and inconsistent defender overall, lack of toughness, solid lateral quicks but can't fight through screens or defend in the post very well.

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, SF, 20 years old, 13th in DX Top 100
Measurements: 6'7", 211 lbs, 7'2" wingspan, 38" max vert
Scouting report:
Athleticism: Great athlete; strong, explosive, quick, long. Plays with very high energy as well. Complete package in this area.
Offence: Plays well above the rim, can finish through contact and draws fouls at a very high rate (highest of any SF in the draft). Can't create for himself, lack of ball handling skills, drives in straight lines. Terrible shooter, both from midrange and from 3. Poor and inconsistent mechanics.
Defence: Magnificent defender. True stopper on the wing, with the strength to defend in the post if needed. Great lateral quicks to stay in front of his man, has a James-Johnson-esque ability to block jumpers as well.
Other: Currently projects as a role player in the NBA due to complete lack of offence. Would need to add a jumper to be more than that, or drastically improve his ball handling skills.

Justin Anderson, SF, 21 years old, 23rd in DX Top 100
Measurements: 6'6", 231 lbs, 7'0" wingspan, 43" max vert
Scouting report:
Athleticism: Amazing athlete; good quickness and strength, incredibly explosive.
Offence: Big improvement from him offensively in his final year - developed a 3 point shot - and a good one (45%). Especially good on the catch, but can shoot off the dribble as well. Form has improved noticeably, so the improvement is probably real and not a lucky streak. Not an on-ball creator, not a strong dribbler. Can drive past defenders closing out too fast, but not much beyond that. Doesn't set up offence with passes, but has improved his shot selection, knowing when to move the ball rather than take a tough shot, while also reducing his turnovers.
Defence: Very good defender, and a key player on a tremendous defensive team. Very good at using his strength and quicks to keep his man in front of him, and has tremendous recovery speed (both back to the perimeter and beating his man to the rim to contest when he gets beat). A little raw in defensive fundamentals (can be beat sometimes due to incorrect positioning or body angle) but he is another high energy defender who will make up for his mistakes.
Other: Looks like an ideal 3 and D prospect. If there's no one with high potential left, that's always a good thing to have. And his recent improvement might point to a bigger role being possible down the road
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Chavaughn Lewis, SG, 22 years old, Not ranked in DX Top 100
Measurements: 6'4", 188 lbs, 6'9" wingspan, no max vert data
Scouting report:
Athleticism: No info.
Offence: Poor shooter from range and inside, high volume scorer who draws lots of free throws. Good rebounder for his position. Not much of a passer, turns it over a good deal (more turnovers than assists, a bad sign from a guard).
Defence: Generates steals fairly well.

Maurice Walker, C, 23 years old, Not ranked in DX Top 100
Measurements: 6'10", 270 lbs, 7'2" wingspan, no max vert data
Scouting report:
Athleticism: No info.
Offence: Decent free throw shooter (72%). Solid on the offensive boards but nothing special. Lives entirely inside.
Defence: Good shot blocker in limited minutes. OK defensive rebounder.
Other: Canadian - from Scarborough

Dallin Bachynski, C, 23 years old, Not ranked in DX Top 100
Measurements: 7'0", 265 lbs, No data on wingspan, no max vert data
Scouting report:
Athleticism: No info.
Offence: Decent free throw shooter (69%). Barely used in college.
Defence: Again, barely used (12 MPG).
Other: Canadian - from Calgary

These three are all probably long shots to even get an invite after going undrafted.
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I think Anderson is going to be a really good player, I would be surprised if he is still undrafted by the time we pick (even though he is projected to be 23rd)
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Old 06-03-2015, 12:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think Anderson is going to be a really good player, I would be surprised if he is still undrafted by the time we pick (even though he is projected to be 23rd)
Agreed, keep reading how much potential he has.
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Old 06-03-2015, 12:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Tony Snell and Rodney Woods both fell in the draft when both were expected to be possibly late-lottery picks or chosen in the early-to-mid teens. Such players often fall a bit because they're older prospects. Hopefully the same happens with Anderson.
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Tony Snell and Rodney Woods both fell in the draft when both were expected to be possibly late-lottery picks or chosen in the early-to-mid teens. Such players often fall a bit because they're older prospects. Hopefully the same happens with Anderson.
He is 21, is that considered older now? :gay:

Wasn't Ross 22 when we drafted him?
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Old 06-03-2015, 01:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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He is 21, is that considered older now? :gay:

Wasn't Ross 22 when we drafted him?
Ross was 21. I believe 21 is not really considered older or young as a draftee, basically somewhere in the middle.
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Old 06-03-2015, 02:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ross was also a surprise selection at #8.

Age when it comes to draft prospects does matter. It could be unfair to a player and it doesn't always work out, but scouts love potential moreso than production.
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Old 06-03-2015, 05:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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^^ If this kid is available to us we better take him.





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Old 06-03-2015, 06:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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^^ If this kid is available to us we better take him.

Agree, Really want him to be a Raptor. I just can't see him staying in our range..

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I feel like some of you guys are setting yourselves up for some serious disappointment when Masai passes on Anderson and chooses this kid.

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yeah anderson won't fall to us.. 3 and D + crazy athleticism is a must have for every team
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yeah anderson won't fall to us.. 3 and D + crazy athleticism is a must have for every team
And a great attitude. ....I would actually consider a trade to move up to get him.

Ross + #20
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Old 06-03-2015, 08:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Ross was also a surprise selection at #8.

Age when it comes to draft prospects does matter. It could be unfair to a player and it doesn't always work out, but scouts love potential moreso than production.
I think the logic is that a 22 year old playing against 18 and 19 year olds should have a major strength advantage, which would be lost in the nba. Put Anthony Davis in the college now and he'd average 50 and 50 ... Granted, developmental curve is different in the nba, but still - stats for older players should be heavily discounted when comparing them against younger competition.
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Old 06-10-2015, 08:15 AM   #18 (permalink)
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G - Norman Powell, G - Rashad Vaughn, F - Duje Dukan, F - Christian Wood, F - Darion Atkins and F - Michale Kyser

Vaughn, Powell and Wood are three top candidates for that 20th pick. I included them in my draft prep thread.

Norman Powell, SG, 21 years old, 43rd in DX Top 100
Measurements: 6'4", 215 lbs, 6'11" wingspan, 41" max vert
Scouting report:
Athleticism: Incredible athlete, amazing leaping ability and strength for a guard. Great length, if short for his position. Very quick first step.
Offence: First and foremost a slasher. Uses his athleticism to drive head first into the defence, and is very effective playing above the rim even in traffic. Very poor shooter, poor mechanics, tends to hesitate on his jumper. Gets tunnel vision when he drives, poor passing in general. Also not a great ball handler.
Defence: Has all the tools but is only an average defender. Tends to gamble too much, and is only a decent rebounder considering his physical attributes. Heavy workload offensively may play into it as he was a very good defender in previous years.

Rashad Vaughn, SG, 18 years old, 45th in DX Top 100
Measurements: 6'5", 199 lbs, 6'7" wingspan, 34" max vert
Scouting report:
Athleticism: Smooth athlete, nothing spectacular. Not explosive, average quickness. Good strength.
Offence: Very good shooter (38% from 3) and from all over the floor. Can create his own shot, shoot off screens and spot up equally effectively. Very good at creating space for midrange jumpers. Has strength to finish in the lane and draws fouls well, and has a nice floater. Can score every which way but loose, rare for such a young player. That said, very poor shot selection - takes many tough shots instead of passing, fadeaways and contested jumpers. Poor passing vision on the rare occasion he does look for a teammate. Not a great ball handler, tends to dribble in straight line drives, depending on his strength to bully past opponents, and his step back to get himself open shots.
Defence: Another guy who has all the tools but not the mentality. Part of a terrible defensive team, so coaching might play into it, but was often blown by, not in a proper stance, lacked awareness.
Other: Questions about whether he can play a less selfish game, or be more disciplined defensively. But at his age, someone will take a swing at him, because if you can correct his shot selection and defensive focus, he's much better than the position he'll be drafted at. Said to have a great work ethic, but also sees himself as a star even if his performance doesn't quite line up with that view.

Christian Wood, PF, 19 years old, 25th in DX Top 100
Measurements: 6'11", 216 lbs, 7'3" wingspan, no max vert data
Scouting report:
Athleticism: Tall and long, but thin right now. Looks like he'll fill out with time though. Very fluid and agile for a big man, can get off the ground effortlessly.
Offence: DX pegs him as "uniquely versatile." Good transition runner, even capable of dribbling up his own defensive rebound. Very good in PnR as the roll man, can go up and get lobs and finishes very well in traffic. Has a face up game, with a quick first step. Good shooter (73% from the free throw line) and has range out to the three point line (though inconsistent from there for now, due to some mechanics that need cleaning up), so his face up game has a good foundation, allowing him to attack closeouts. Currently lacks a real post up game, due to lack of strength, but with added weight seems to have a touch around the basket that would lend itself to that skill.
Defence: Inconsistent defender. Has the length and quickness to range out on the perimeter, contesting shots, or to hedge and recover to his man to disrupt screen actions. Tremendous shot blocker, with over 3 per 40 minutes, even though he played beside an even better rim protector at C. Very good rebounder, particularly on the defensive end. Tends to get pushed around on the block by bigger players and get beat by them sometimes for rebounds. Also has very little discipline defensively - tries to block everything, leaves his feet when he shouldn't. Gets lost on defensive coverages in the pick and roll, getting caught in no man's land between his man and the ball handler. Can be on and off effort wise - often won't have a second effort on a play, and can get beat in transition if the offensive play goes poorly.
Other: Needs to bulk up, which would address a lot of questions. But also needs some serious maturing, as his focus and effort are questionable. His shot selection on offence is also a concern - his decision making is pretty much to shoot when he has the ball, and when he does look to pass he tends to turn it over.

Duje Dukan there's pretty much no info on, besides being a 23 year old power forward from Croatia who played in the NCAA last year and appeared to do very little in his limited floor time except shoot poorly. Unranked in DX's top 100.

Darion Atkins is a 22 year old PF, 6'8", 240 lbs, 7'2" wingspan. Good strength and length makes up for his height. Poor free throw shooter (50%), OK around the rim. Good rebounder and solid rim protector. Ranks 86th in DX's top 100.

Michale Kyser is another 23 year old PF with almost no info. Shoots well inside (60% FG%), but poorly from the line (60% as well), OK rebounder and a very good shot blocker. Unranked in DX's top 100.

Just like last time, 3 real prospects and 3 redshirts, this time with no Canadian kids.
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:19 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind trading Ross and the 20th pick for the Utah jazz pick and select Stanley Johnson, the guy is dropping in the draft quickly
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I like what I hear...Many options and sure they'll get someone they want unlike last year.
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