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Old 12-17-2013, 10:41 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Denial of the tank...

There are 7 great players in this draft.
In the history of the NBA this has never happened.
The best draft ever had 4 great players go top 10 (and one or two are debatable that they are "great"). It amazes me how something gets said once here and then it becomes gospel. Going by the best draft in years, if the pick isn't top 5 then its not going to be a great player. Past history also states one of those top 5 will be a failure. Even Jordan's year only had 3 great players in the top 10.

Definition of Tank?
If we tank I want a top 2 pick. A franchise changer. Not a good player. I have no idea what everyone else opinion is but Wiggins or Parker may be franchise changers. That's it. Why is everyone else satisfied by tanking to get, for lack of a better argument, a Chris Bosh. Bosh is a good player, not a franchise changer. Maybe I'm wrong but THIS is what tanking is. Getting a top 5 7 or 10 pick ... get that garbage outta here.

Trading Players allows you to get nothing back and just tank
Even though they know there is a cap, some people seem have the mistaken idea that when we trade players and salary we just get back picks and terrible players. We have to take players. Some of those players don't stink out the joint and some are good. Especially players with larger salaries. They earned it once and can sometimes be somewhat useful again. The drop in talent level isn't nearly as big as some seem to think it is after trading a good player. And sometimes it works the other way with a decent GM.

We don't need to trade our assets to tank
This is the biggest denial that we CAN keep the team we have today and suck to get a top 5 or 7 pick. "build around our core". Folks, this teams isn't shitty enough. It competes. To suck we have to trade Lowry (an absolute given tank or no). To really suck like we need to we have to trade DD. I hate to lose Amir but its probably required. Get over it or get off the tank.

If you want us to build around our current core... stop talking about tanking. Its the wrong term.

I don't want a chance a just an all-star if we intentionally suck. I want a game changer. A potential Hall of Famer. I want 3 1st rounders over the next 6 years. If this is not tank nation's mission then you are doing it wrong.
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:47 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Denial of the tank...

There are 7 great players in this draft.
In the history of the NBA this has never happened.
The best draft ever had 4 great players go top 10 (and one or two are debatable that they are "great"). It amazes me how something gets said once here and then it becomes gospel. Going by the best draft in years, if the pick isn't top 5 then its not going to be a great player. Past history also states one of those top 5 will be a failure. Even Jordan's year only had 3 great players in the top 10.

Definition of Tank?
If we tank I want a top 2 pick. A franchise changer. Not a good player. I have no idea what everyone else opinion is but Wiggins or Parker may be franchise changers. That's it. Why is everyone else satisfied by tanking to get, for lack of a better argument, a Chris Bosh. Bosh is a good player, not a franchise changer. Maybe I'm wrong but THIS is what tanking is. Getting a top 5 7 or 10 pick ... get that garbage outta here.

Trading Players allows you to get nothing back and just tank
Even though they know there is a cap, some people seem have the mistaken idea that when we trade players and salary we just get back picks and terrible players. We have to take players. Some of those players don't stink out the joint and some are good. Especially players with larger salaries. They earned it once and can sometimes be somewhat useful again. The drop in talent level isn't nearly as big as some seem to think it is after trading a good player. And sometimes it works the other way with a decent GM.

We don't need to trade our assets to tank
This is the biggest denial that we CAN keep the team we have today and suck to get a top 5 or 7 pick. "build around our core". Folks, this teams isn't shitty enough. It competes. To suck we have to trade Lowry (an absolute given tank or no). To really suck like we need to we have to trade DD. I hate to lose Amir but its probably required. Get over it or get off the tank.

If you want us to build around our current core... stop talking about tanking. Its the wrong term.

I don't want a chance a just an all-star if we intentionally suck. I want a game changer. A potential Hall of Famer. I want 3 1st rounders over the next 6 years. If this is not tank nation's mission then you are doing it wrong.
And the team would still be dependent on the ping pong balls.
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