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Old 12-06-2008, 12:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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new coach same team same results. good luck on the next 4 games
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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23 TO's?
Outrebounded by 14?

It's amazing that we're only 2 games under .500!

But by the time next week ends we'll be 8-13.


Colangelo better be on the phone right now.
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:58 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Clonagelo better be on the phone right now.
And what exactly is he going to do? His hands are tied and we have shit all for tradable assets. So please tell me what he's going to be doing on the phone outside of begging to keep his job?
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
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new coach same team same results. good luck on the next 4 games

I said this a few days ago. Sam Mitchell wasn't the main issue with this team.We aren't very good.Too inconsistent with players like JK/JG/JM/AB/Ukic/Soloman
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:01 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This Jose and Bosh thing isn't working. Too weak defensively, too soft.

I said this in the other thread but I'd love it if we could move Calderon for wing talent like the Outlaw/Webster (or Fernandez/Outlaw if we could squeeze it out of them) and then move JO to Chicago for Hinrich + Hughes + Noah or something. Hinrich would be the perfect antidote for Calderon as a defensive player and I think he's a lot better than the mess in Chicago has indicated. Also after that we'd have an expendable trading chip in Parker and a lot more options.

Hinrich/Ukic
Webster/Hughes/Parker
Outlaw/Kapono/Graham
Bosh/Bargnani/Hump
Bargnani/Noah

I'm way, way, way, way more confident in that team than the one we have.
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Bosh looked pissed off rather than motivated ... Team didn't respond to BC move and the schedule for near future it doesn't get any easier. So much expectation for this season, just to see this team going nowhere. The ball is on BC court now. Jay has his options limited, he is doomed to failed even before he started if BC doesn't make some adjustments.
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:07 AM   #11 (permalink)
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This Jose and Bosh thing isn't working. Too weak defensively, too soft.

I said this in the other thread but I'd love it if we could move Calderon for wing talent like the Outlaw/Webster (or Fernandez/Outlaw if we could squeeze it out of them) and then move JO to Chicago for Hinrich + Hughes + Noah or something. Hinrich would be the perfect antidote for Calderon as a defensive player and I think he's a lot better than the mess in Chicago has indicated. Also after that we'd have an expendable trading chip in Parker and a lot more options.

Hinrich/Ukic
Webster/Hughes/Parker
Outlaw/Kapono/Graham
Bosh/Bargnani/Hump
Bargnani/Noah

I'm way, way, way, way more confident in that team than the one we have.
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
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hello there everybody,

even though i don't watch lots of maple leafs, but even when they are losing they play with heart! man its been a while since i've seen Raptors play the way they do!!!
i dont care if they lose! i want them to compete.... even today under new coach they aint s**t. they play like a "team" that has no excitement ..... as much as i love Bosh i think he really should attack the basket .... i dont know if im right but if it was up 2 me today i would trade Bosh for wade!! i love Bosh dont get me wrong but isnt it what we fans want? being able to see an exciting game and that a player actually attacks the basket consistently????
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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horrendous .... i just got back .. didnt watch the game horrible thank god .. we need some major changes our guys don't want to play ..=S
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Old 12-06-2008, 02:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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man if we can get just webster for Calderon i would be happy! this guy has more potential then Spanishguard has!
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Old 12-06-2008, 03:04 AM   #15 (permalink)
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This game made me sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jose wasn't even in the right position to defend anyone. Bosh wasn't attacking but shooting jumpers even attemting a 3, wtf. J.O. couldn't hit small jays that Rasho would have put in easily.

Initially I was a big fan of the trade, but boy it is beginning to look like we really got hosed.

Raptor fans aren't as stupid as Maple Leaf fans if the team doesn't improve they will be playing in an empty ACC.
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Old 12-06-2008, 03:04 AM   #16 (permalink)
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The problem of this team is the no-difense (Bosh, Kapono for example). The raps needs a G-SF
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Old 12-06-2008, 03:55 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Give it time people, a new coach trying to introduce a new system and plying after2 terrible losses in Utah of all places......wait at least a month before selling the farm
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:05 AM   #18 (permalink)
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It will take time to get used to Triano....and even if we have a "new" coach which we really dont, we are playing bad right now and the fact of the matter is Utah is a fucking great team...

Did you really expect us to take this game easily? I knew we were going to get destroyed in this game...i dont care if we had phil jackson as a coach for the night, it still would have happened.

Right now, im not going to say we win or lose the JO trade....it clearly does not seem like we got the better deal but then again he is an expiring contract which makes him a great trading chip.....Give it 10-15 more games before we start REALLY deciding how the trade is going for us...

Once Calderon gets out of his rut, i think we will be fine. We need help but i like what we are seeing from Joey lately...

This team needs a trade shakeup thats for sure...Solomon and Ukic are not the answer to our backup PG situation...Ukic has potential so he is staying but i just wouldnt mind having more experience (minus the solomon effect).
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:31 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Why can Lawrence Frank bring the Nets into Utah and have a great effort and expose Utahs perimeter defence and we cant even stay within 20 when we have a better team?

Its BCs turn to step his game up. We should not be losing by that much to Utah when they dont even have Boozer. The points in the paint were NBA Live like and thats just lack of communication and effort on the screens.
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Old 12-06-2008, 09:42 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Why can Lawrence Frank bring the Nets into Utah and have a great effort and expose Utahs perimeter defence and we cant even stay within 20 when we have a better team?

Its BCs turn to step his game up. We should not be losing by that much to Utah when they dont even have Boozer. The points in the paint were NBA Live like and thats just lack of communication and effort on the screens.
Frank has coached the Nets for years, same system, same plays.

Triano is new.
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