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Old 12-15-2010, 10:26 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Oh yeah don't you know? If we had JVG or Lawrence Frank.....this roster would go undefeated for the rest of the season!

Its time Jay scraps the play book and handle the team and rotation like on NBA 2k11
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Old 12-15-2010, 10:42 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I just saw the DeRozan slam....holy buckets!!
That's gotta win dunk of the month or somethin'!
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:40 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Old 12-15-2010, 12:03 PM   #44 (permalink)
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If we had Jose, we would have won that game....Jose's value to the young guns are undervalued or under-recognized. He distributes the ball well, gets them in the game. Without him, they are forcing up shots and if the shots are not dropping, then the results are as shown.

While we need someone that can slash to the rim at will or penetrate, we also need a ball distributor first. Bayless should be the second option. Yesterday's game reflects strongly we need Jose back....
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Old 12-15-2010, 12:31 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Oh yeah don't you know? If we had JVG or Lawrence Frank.....this roster would go undefeated for the rest of the season!

Its time Jay scraps the play book and handle the team and rotation like on NBA 2k11
Boy it's amazing how defensive some get over Triano, especially considering how up & down his teams have been the last 2yrs. And he has to be accountable, at least to some degree.
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Old 12-15-2010, 02:59 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Boy it's amazing how defensive some get over Triano, especially considering how up & down his teams have been the last 2yrs. And he has to be accountable, at least to some degree.
What you just can't seem to understand jeff is that there isn't a coach in the league who can win when he doesn't have talent to utilize.

Larry Brown is a great coach... but he's had his struggles in NY and CHA. Why do you think that is? Because he suddenly lost his marbles and forgot how to lead a team?

Lawrence Frank lost 16 games in a row before he was canned by the Nets...

Jackson... Popovich... Sloan... all of these guys' teams have struggled when they've lacked talent.

What exactly are you expecting from Triano? If you think that this year's team is CLEARLY "less talented" than last year's version then aren't we about where we SHOULD be record-wise?
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:05 PM   #47 (permalink)
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What you just can't seem to understand jeff is that there isn't a coach in the league who can win when he doesn't have talent to utilize.

Larry Brown is a great coach... but he's had his struggles in NY and CHA. Why do you think that is? Because he suddenly lost his marbles and forgot how to lead a team?

Lawrence Frank lost 16 games in a row before he was canned by the Nets...

Jackson... Popovich... Sloan... all of these guys' teams have struggled when they've lacked talent.

What exactly are you expecting from Triano? If you think that this year's team is CLEARLY "less talented" than last year's version then aren't we about where we SHOULD be record-wise?

Well by that analysis Sam Mitchell should still be coaching here, i mean what more did you expect him to do?

As for what i expect from Triano, sadly not much which is mostly what i'm getting.

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Old 12-15-2010, 03:13 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Well by that analysis Sam Mitchell should still be coaching here, i mean what more did you expect him to do?

As for what i expect from Triano, sadly not much.
Difference is.... Triano has a better bball mind and has about 29362908460 X more coaching experience.

I also gave Mitchell a few years before I really started to get on his case.

You gave Triano what? 10 games? lol...
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:17 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Difference is.... Triano has a better bball mind and has about 29362908460 X more coaching experience.

I also gave Mitchell a few years before I really started to get on his case.

You gave Triano what? 10 games? lol...
If that. He's been with this organization for years and i always thought he was in over his head as a HC. But let's just say i gave Triano a couple years....he's been here 2yrs now and all i'm saying here is that he's got to have at the very least some accountability, like i said the players share blame but Triano has also got to take some blame. And IMO i don't think this team will ever go anywhere with him as the HC. Just an opinion.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:38 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Just a few quick notes:
- Jerryd Bayless was good for most of the game. He even looked like a PG.
- Jerryd Bayless had four consecutive offensive possession in late game (while it was still close) when no one else on the team touched the ball. Resulting in a bad shot late in the clock, one turnover, one lucky time out, and one basket. Young or not, but he is trying to be a scorer too much to be a good PG.
- Bargs was horrible if some one didnt notice
- 11-21 from free throw line. Whats up with that. It has been an issue for couple of weeks now.
- Barbosa is a chucker. Even one of the threes he hit, was so stupid it made me want to trade him despite his good performances lately. 4 on 2 break and he takes a step back three? Similarly on the other end he makes great defensive plays sometimes, but he also gambles a lot.
- Nice games by Davis and Amir.
- Kleiza must lead the league in turnovers per 48mins.
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Old 12-15-2010, 06:42 PM   #51 (permalink)
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If that. He's been with this organization for years and i always thought he was in over his head as a HC. But let's just say i gave Triano a couple years....he's been here 2yrs now and all i'm saying here is that he's got to have at the very least some accountability, like i said the players share blame but Triano has also got to take some blame. And IMO i don't think this team will ever go anywhere with him as the HC. Just an opinion.
Completely agree with this.

Here are a few issues, which Triano should have addressed as HC:

- Most of the time there is 0 ball movement! You can't just expect the guys to dribble and try to penetrate for an entire game

- No setup at the end of the game. How many times have I seen wrong people doing wrong things in the last few precious second of the game.

- Too late timeouts, though I think he's improving on this.

- I remember recently Barbosa shooting 3 or perhaps 4 times in a row unsuccessfully. You don't have to have a huge amount of couching experience to see that that leaves all the players cold. Now I like Barbosa but if a coach let's that happen (unless it's MJ, Kobe, Lebron, etc.) he has lost all the credibility in my eyes.

- Insistence on letting cold players (Weems, DeRozan, etc.) take extensive minutes.

- Not correcting bad habits of players: Barg lets uncontested shots, just pull your arms up, distract the shooting player even if you're far away. He consistently doesn't even try in contesting shots. Same thing with Bayless and Barbosa taking too many back-to-back shots. Kleiza's dribble is fine one-on-one but can't dribble into a crowd of defenders. That almost always results in turnovers. Yet, how many times I saw that happening. These are all the things a head coach can fix... Warn the players in terms of their weaknesses to help them help the team... Be authoritative but also rewarding, etc.

He's either blind to these mistakes happening over and over, game after game, or players don't listen to him. These basic issues are easily solvable by solid coaching, which is not happening in Raptorland.
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Old 12-15-2010, 07:35 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Difference is.... Triano has a better bball mind and has about 29362908460 X more coaching experience.

I also gave Mitchell a few years before I really started to get on his case.

You gave Triano what? 10 games? lol...
excuse me?

oh - I know - saying he could simply not coach. Period. That wasn't really getting on his case.
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