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CB4 11 27.50%
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Amir 25 62.50%
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:36 PM   #41 (permalink)
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We really missed Belli and Wright this game.
Yep, and games like this makes me really wish Reggie was healthy.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:36 PM   #42 (permalink)
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When Bosh gets the ball. The other 4 players on the court stand still. No one screening away from the ball, no one (other than belinelli) cuts to the basket, no one doing anything. The game stalls when Bosh gets the ball because no one else does shit and they wont even move to get open for a pass!

As for Bargnani. I'm glad Triano broke the clipboard he should have broken it over Bargnani's head. I hope his minutes significantly drop when Evans comes back.

Vince Carter moves the ball around so well.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:46 PM   #43 (permalink)
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This is why I like Smitch better than Triano.

If someone isn't getting it done on a nightly basis Smitch sits their ass down and uses someone who will, maybe even takes them out of the starting lineup (Andrea...)

Whereas Jay Triano will throw a hissy fit and break his clipboard over his knee rather than do anything different at all.

Jose, Bargs, Turk and maybe Jack should play hard or gtfo because right now the starting five I would prefer is:
-Belinelli
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:04 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Anybody else want to see Banks get some burn?..hehe..I actually do.
You can put me in that boat.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:06 PM   #45 (permalink)
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When Bosh gets the ball. The other 4 players on the court stand still. No one screening away from the ball, no one (other than belinelli) cuts to the basket, no one doing anything. The game stalls when Bosh gets the ball because no one else does shit and they wont even move to get open for a pass!
RE: Bosh. Not the team's fault. That's the coaching staff + Bosh calling for isos and telling the rest of the team to clear out. If anything, our guys could be crashing the glass because really, how often does Chris Bosh pass the ball after getting it within 15 feet?

There are so many issues with that iso we'd have to start another thread to address them all. Ever notice how much the offense stagnates when Chris Bosh gets back in the game? It's pretty obvious to me. Guys that were hot when CB was on the bench get taken out of the flow of the game and go cold.

I have no problem with CB taking his man one on one. I just wish we had more ball movement ahead of time.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:14 PM   #46 (permalink)
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We can beat Orlando this year, same with Boston.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:29 PM   #47 (permalink)
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We have a big,but very big problem with Defence of the Guards.JJ Reddick played like he's in a training match
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:32 PM   #48 (permalink)
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i hope we dont make the playoffs, that way, Bosh can leave and bargs,hedo,calderone can get traded.

bc did a great job, aside from hiring triano, but too bad these damn Europeans don`t step up, except for the raps mvp, bellinelli.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:33 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Well we let another game skip past our fingers. We are so close guys , must stay positive. Our Jose and Jack combo is a big reason wht we lost this game. Jack was horrible on d today as he was a team high -14 when he was on the floor. The guy just can't shoot so if he is not going to drive sit his ass on the bench. We started well Triano should have played Jose more on the point without Jack at the 2. Right now Jack is about 3rd on the depth chart at the 2 spot. Hedo is starting to piss me off. He makes some really bone head plays and he is way overated handling the ball. We are trying to run to much through him. When it comes to Bargs how in the fuck can the guy play when the refs always stick it up his ass. Bargs must lead the league on phatom fouls. Somehow he has to learn to play through it because I really think thats what holding him back. This american street ball favouritism in the nba is bull and Bargs is paying for it on our team.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:05 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Anybody else want to see Banks get some burn?..hehe..I actually do.
Me too. He can body up PGs
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:07 PM   #51 (permalink)
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howard should have been fouled out. Throws elbows at everyone down there.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:14 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I've never said this before but I'm really starting to think that we should trade AB for a more interior type of center...

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Old 11-22-2009, 07:52 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I've never said this before but I'm really starting to think that we should trade AB for a more interior type of center...

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I can't see your trade. but we need to trade Bargnani for A center lol.

And I laugh at everyone who says he will be better suited at PF. His only advantage is to get by bigs who are too slow. And now camping out at the 3 he doesn't get by them. They run him off the 3 pt line and he takes half step inside the arc and clanks it. Seriously, what the hell.

I appreciate Bargnani's rebounding this year though compared to last year but Bosh had to gaurd Howard today because Bargs would get eaten on the offensive glass and/or is too weak.

We need a defensive hustle Center like Noah/Perkins/Varejao to do well. I would also love a defensive minded PG even though I think that might be a move going lateral.

But Calderon/Bargs for Hinrich/Noah would be a good step for this team.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:15 PM   #54 (permalink)
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man... I really like all the "lesser" players on the Raps right now...

Johnson, Weems, DeRozan, Belinelli, Pops and Wright....

and I am extremely frustrated with all the big names....

Jack, Calderon, Bargnani, Turkoglu and Bosh

Bosh is kinda the exception... hes played great don't get me wrong but hes not good enough to win games on his own... as of late he disappears when the team needs him the most, and then we have to fight an uphill battle which never ends up working...
Oh Yeah!?!?!?!?!? Where the feck was Pops Mensah-Bonsu!!!!!!


Its a well known fact that he can instantly get the momentum of the game up in a heart beat... and hes a fan favorite in the ACC!?!?!?!?!??!


He would have been really clutch in the early 4th when we suddenly started slowing down...
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Oh Yeah!?!?!?!?!? Where the feck was Pops Mensah-Bonsu!!!!!!


Its a well known fact that he can instantly get the momentum of the game up in a heart beat... and hes a fan favorite in the ACC!?!?!?!?!??!


He would have been really clutch in the early 4th when we suddenly started slowing down...
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:48 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Oh Yeah!?!?!?!?!? Where the feck was Pops Mensah-Bonsu!!!!!!


Its a well known fact that he can instantly get the momentum of the game up in a heart beat... and hes a fan favorite in the ACC!?!?!?!?!??!


He would have been really clutch in the early 4th when we suddenly started slowing down...
I was wondering the thing. We needed energy big time in the 4th quarter. Pops IS energy!
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Pops also SUCKS. Amir Johnson brings what Pops brings and then some.
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:07 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Amir Johnson was fucking awesome today when the refs finally let him stay in the game in the 2nd half, hes becoming my favorite Raptor on this team quickly.

Anyway, plain and simple we lost because we completely went away from our defensive gameplan vs their 2nd unit in the 4th which made absolutely no sense. Their big 3 went 17/49, and yet we lose because we became magnetized to the ball like we were in the 1st game vs ORL in the 4th qtr today and let JWill and Reddick beat us.

We played FANTASTIC help defence for the most part in the first 3 qtrs, though Boshs help D was lacking all night even though he played great man D on Howard until he got in foul trouble, then he let Howard get too deep.

Then in the 4th like I said, we overcommitted to the drive and collapsed to much on the penetrator and gave Williams those open 3s, and Reddick got 2 open shots off a simple rub down off a Gortat screen, and then the mid range shot off the dribble 2 times where Bosh didnt hedge well enough.

I find it amazing how we're the only team in the league thats let JJ Reddick kill us this year. We didnt lose to their big stars, we lost to their scrubs. Unreal. Theres no way a lineup where Pietrus is their best offensive player on the floor at the time at the start of the 4th should be able to score 13 pts in about 4 minutes, let alone score much at all. This team has no brain sometimes.

KNOW WHO YOURE PLAYING AGAINST. YOU WERE DOING SO WELL IN THE FIRST 3 QTRS.

And whats with the ACC not being sold out? For a game like this not to be sold out, its not good, not good at all. The crowd wasnt as into the game as my friends and I were until the very end of the game where it was extremely loud. The ACC has lost its edge. I have no voice, thats how it should be.

And I say it again, we need a quick penetrating guard at PG that can play some D. That or replace Bargnani with a defensive center. We're never going to win with this lineup in the long run and theyre all locked in long term unfortunately.

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Old 11-22-2009, 11:16 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Amir Johnson was fucking awesome today when the refs finally let him stay in the game in the 2nd half, hes becoming my favorite Raptor on this team quickly.
Him and Belinelli are probably my favorites of the new players so far along with Hedo who has impressed me while playing in pain and doing a pretty good job.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:16 AM   #60 (permalink)
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Jack 8pts, 11asts, 8reb
funny, nice stats, yet he was fucking horrible enough I almost hit my television a number of times.

Dude see's too much floor time.
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