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Old 11-24-2009, 11:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Looks like Rasho has a good game too.

Why did DeRozan only play 10 minutes?
Good question.

8pts in the 1st quarter........then nothing.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:15 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yeah, and they scored 112pts against us.
It took them 86 shots and a good night at the line to do that. Pretty much all in one quarter. Holding them to 20 in the 4th was nice to see. It gives me some hope for the overall identity this team is starting to create.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:16 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm fine with CB having a bad shooting night, but when it comes to the fourth quarter and other guys have been hitting shots you gotta start swinging the ball man. Watching him force up jump shots and stagnate the offense while guys like Jack, Calderon and Bargnani were feeling it was extremely frustrating.

I was very impressed with Bosh on the boards and on defense.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:18 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Good question.

8pts in the 1st quarter........then nothing.
Yah Wright is a turn over machine....

But he did hit a nice 3 when we needed it...

I'm going to the Phoenix game on Sunday should I take pics and try & post them here?

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Old 11-24-2009, 11:22 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Yah Wright is a turn over machine....

But he did hit a nice 3 when we needed it...
Wright had 1 turnover in 17 Minutes.

Plus Belinelli/Jack got about 35 minutes at SG to Derozan's 10. Wright played mostly the 3.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:30 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Why did DeRozan only play 10 minutes?
GRanger was burning him... so TRiano went with more of wright, Belinelli.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:37 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Yeah, and they scored 112pts against us.
the game did have a pretty fast pace though (especially in the 1st half) so lots of shot attempts were had.. More importantly we held Indy to 45% shooting and we outrebounded them 43-34.. so i'm somewhat satisfied.

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I'm fine with CB having a bad shooting night, but when it comes to the fourth quarter and other guys have been hitting shots you gotta start swinging the ball man. Watching him force up jump shots and stagnate the offense while guys like Jack, Calderon and Bargnani were feeling it was extremely frustrating.
in the first half we were doing a great job of passing the ball and finding the best shot. Whereas we really got away from that in the second half, which seemed less fluid and more forced. Thank God Bargnani hit some of those jumpers though.

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I'm going to the Phoenix game on Sunday should I take pics and try & post them here?
go for it man. Are they good seats?
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I'm just fine with Marco getting more minutes over DeRozan. You saw tonight the sort of advantage you have when a 2 can create and shoot the ball well. DeMar's defense isn't that much better than Belinelli's to warrant him getting a lot more burn.

All around, a decent effort by the Raptors, but you still see the trouble spots that will catch them when they play a good team. I love that this team can basically score at will more times than not, but they still don't have the D to shut down a team when the balls not dropping, which will happen from time to time.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:48 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Good game. Once again we prove we can't handle a lead. Jose played amazing with Jack playing his best game so far. BOsh, IMO, was trying to hard to get his own points. He was missing shots but yet he kept on trying even when there were people that were open. HOepfully that changes. Otehr then that good game
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:51 PM   #30 (permalink)
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"...Jose is the man..."

So does this mean we are not going to read "...Jose needs to be traded..." after the next outing

We know our team HAS the ability, we've seen glimpses of it, just needs to be exploited to a greater degree, more than and sooner than the competition
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:10 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm going to the Phoenix game on Sunday should I take pics and try & post them here?
Do it, you can have an RF exclusive
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:12 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Wright had 1 turnover in 17 Minutes.

Plus Belinelli/Jack got about 35 minutes at SG to Derozan's 10. Wright played mostly the 3.
But what I am saying is you can guarantee a turn over or 2 as soon as he starts dribbling LOL

His dribble moves look nice but he is just as turn over prone as Golden Graham...But and there is a but he plays better defence...
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:14 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Do it, you can have an RF exclusive
Cool I got pretty good seats soo I will bring my wifes $600 camera and take some nice pics...
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:16 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Cool I got pretty good seats soo I will bring my wifes $600 camera and take some nice pics...
Nice.

Maybe you can lend us a few for the RF facebook page?
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:41 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I don't know why the Raptors have to let big leads slip every game. The lead went from 21 down to 5 I believe. Can they not just maintain a large lead?
it might be a bit worse for us, but the fact is that the vast majority of games where one team leads by 20 at the half will see a resurgence of the team that is down in the 2nd. You can be sure that o'bryan's speech at the half was different than triano's. It's natural (except for the truly elite teams) to relax, and the other team will be fired up.

the good news is that we have yet to lose a game where we led big this season, I believe we are 5-0 in games where we had close to 20ppg at any time (cavs, NO, Detroit, Miami and Indiana).
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really nice team victory, scoring was spread around nicely.

you can let the best player on the other team get his, but gotta contain others. for the most part we did that i guess, but some shots stung. troy murphy hit some 3s which were too easy.

all in all, glad we won... now we gotta go into charlotte and show them how its done
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:39 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Apparently the 06-07 Raptors decided to show up tonight.

Saw most of the signs which made that a relatively decent year: such as aggressive perimeter play, constant ball movement and good bench production.

Loved the minutes they gave everyone, but that might just be because everyone was productive tonight.
Thought DD needed a few more minutes though.

Give Rasho more fadeaways maybe too...
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Give Rasho more fadeaways maybe too...
I think it's safe to say that Rasho's minutes at the expense of Andrea's woke Bargsy up a bit.
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Rasho is the player of the game
the second half of the 2nd Q was like watching Euroleague basketball, pretty effective
Bosh had a bad game but Hedo, Caldy and Jack stepped up, Bargs had some key shots
good to see a team effort out there, DeRozan gotta work on his D after the last performance
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A good game. Here is my take on a few players:
- Jose: Aggressive from start. Shot well and distributed well. And even had decent defensive night. TJ scored 16 mostly on jumpers which were mostly of the dribble. He only had 3 assists and 2 turnovers to go along with them.
- DD: started out aggressive, but had foul trouble and couldnt contain Granger.
- Turk: Good game. Distributed well, shot well and even got three blokcs.
- Bosh: Great defensively (4 blocks), but couldnt hit a shot and forced it too much in the third. I dont know if Triano wanted to get him involved or if he needed to get his stats, but we lost the lead in third by forgetting the team offense and just giving the ball to Bosh who forced jump shoots. Also only 6-10 from the line (off night shooting wise). Would have been nice to see him rest more and let the hot guys take care of the game (we have a game tonight too).
- Bargs: Didnt do much in the first half, but didnt need to either. He didnt force anything while others were playing good O. Had a couple of aggressive drives though. Came up big in fourth, when our offense wasnt working. Also grabbed two important offensive rebounds. Efficient offensively (6-10 fg and 2-2 ft) and 7 rebounds. Good game in my opinion.
- Jack: Offensively starting to look like the guy we hired. Ran the offense well and shot well. Defensively is out matched sometimes when playing SG. But this was the first game where I felt it was ok to play Jose-Jack combo in the fourth.
- Rasho: The player of the game (why isnt he on the poll? ). I guess Jack and Leo are right when saying he is always ready to play even after he sits on the bench for a few games. He certainly was ready tonight. 12p and 7rebs in 16mins. Good stats from a backup C.
- Bellinelli: Just what we need to spark up the second unit offensively. And hustles in defense too, even though might not have the athletisism to compete against some opposing SG's.
- Amir: A bit more quiet game after a few very successfull ones. Had a couple of stupid fouls, but still able to hustle.
- Wright: Defensively a good game. Kept Granger in better check than DD, Hedo, or Marco. Should never dribble in offense. Just take open jumpers and let others create.

I guess that was everyone after all.

From team perspective it was a good game. Great job on offensive end in the first half and not that bad defensively either. The third was bad in both ends as offense went stagnant with Bosh trying to do everything and defense allowed Granger to go on a streak. Fourth was better again and even when we lost the big lead, I wasnt really fearing a loss at any point. It would have been nice to let starters rest more, but being able to keep the lead and take the W is also important.

No do the same against Bobcats minus the bad third
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