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BC gets extended for the 2013-14 season 7 13.73%
BC gets extended for 2+ years 2 3.92%
BC steps down (resigns) as GM, no new GM is announced 12 23.53%
BC is "let go" by MLSE and a new GM is brought in 12 23.53%
BC stays on as _________ and new GM is brought in 3 5.88%
Nothing is announced on Monday, and this gets further out of hand 13 25.49%
Other (Explain) 2 3.92%
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:23 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Fuck that.
Lol,I prefer him gone too but things just seem messy…guess we gotta wait and see. His titles are apparently removed for now,but I don't feel like he's gone…not until his replacement is announced I'll feel at ease.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:46 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Lol,I prefer him gone too but things just seem messy…guess we gotta wait and see. His titles are apparently removed for now,but I don't feel like he's gone…not until his replacement is announced I'll feel at ease.
Is there anything official?
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:49 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I wonder if Colangelo is the GM of another team after next year, or if he ends up deep in Toronto business like Butch Carter.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:31 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Is there anything official?
Today,well Monday the 20th of May 2013 was supposedly the deadline the Raptors had until to pick up his option(not sure if this is the league rules or the contractual agreement between Colangelo and MLSE) and they didn't pick it up,so the assumption is that he is finished as President and GM. I haven't heard anything outside of reports and sources confirming this,nothing officially by someone from MLSE or Bryan himself.

Then its said that MLSE has offered Colangelo a job within their company unrelated to Basketball and its being negotiated supposedly(a contract) but no word if Bryan has interests in this type of role/position. Tomorrow Colangelo is supposed to be at the NBA Draft Lottery selection as the representative for the Raptors.

Technically he's not the President and GM anymore but he's still affiliated with the franchise and its ownership. If Leiweke and MLSE can't find the right replacement,I'm thinking they'll re-hire Colangelo for a couple more seasons if Bryan is willing to return after all the hoopla(whether he accepts the MLSE basketball unrelated job because he can easily quit that).

The writings are definitely on the wall but I'm not jumping to any conclusions since he's not completely gone and more importantly they haven't found a replacement. Its clear Colangelo isn't their first choice but he could still be a cadidate in their mind so who knows.
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Today,well Monday the 20th of May 2013 was supposedly the deadline the Raptors had until to pick up his option(not sure if this is the league rules or the contractual agreement between Colangelo and MLSE) and they didn't pick it up,so the assumption is that he is finished as President and GM. I haven't heard anything outside of reports and sources confirming this,nothing officially by someone from MLSE or Bryan himself.

Then its said that MLSE has offered Colangelo a job within their company unrelated to Basketball and its being negotiated supposedly(a contract) but no word if Bryan has interests in this type of role/position. Tomorrow Colangelo is supposed to be at the NBA Draft Lottery selection as the representative for the Raptors.

Technically he's not the President and GM anymore but he's still affiliated with the franchise and its ownership. If Leiweke and MLSE can't find the right replacement,I'm thinking they'll re-hire Colangelo for a couple more seasons if Bryan is willing to return after all the hoopla(whether he accepts the MLSE basketball unrelated job because he can easily quit that).

The writings are definitely on the wall but I'm not jumping to any conclusions since he's not completely gone and more importantly they haven't found a replacement. Its clear Colangelo isn't their first choice but he could still be a cadidate in their mind so who knows.
Thanks, much appreciated! So nothing's changed except the option date has expired. Hopefully this is all cleared up soon.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:15 AM   #46 (permalink)
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well, they are taking their sweet time... Who's looking at trades, making calls, evaluating draft prospects and possible free agents right now? i guess no one.
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well, they are taking their sweet time... Who's looking at trades, making calls, evaluating draft prospects and possible free agents right now? i guess no one.
I'm sure you know now that BC is still running the show unofficially as a 'MLSE consultant'(? for BC's title, no clue) The whole situation is surreal - especially if Ujiri comes then the direction has not changed at all except player selection.
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If anyone here is STILL confused as to what the issue is with Toronto's managerial abilities after watching yet ANOTHER brutal franchise fiasco, then I'm not sure you'll ever get it.

A lot of guys here like to nitpick over trades, drafts, etc. Truth is, those moves have hits and misses for all franchises. Where toronto has failed, and sadly, even with the new ownership, still fails is when the executive mettles with the process. Past players have raised this issue, and they aren't even hiding it this time.

Bryan Colangelo isn't the problem, never was, and this crazy train is showing zero signs of changing. The pompous businessman in Toronto will continue to tinker with their toys as they please, they did it recently with Brian Burke, and they are doing g it with BC. The franchise sucks.
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Bryan Colangelo: MLSE’s handling of Raptors GM situation atrocious

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When the NBA escorted Bryan Colangelo into the Raptors’ corner office seven years ago, the general manager’s job came with an understanding.

None of the dilettantes in the MLSE boardroom would be allowed to interfere with him. At the outset, they were warned against even crossing the threshold into his offices without an invitation.

The upshot — Colangelo had agreed to come to Toronto in order to save the flailing Raptors from themselves.

Now, according to sources speaking to the Star’s Doug Smith, he’s being fired by way of promotion.

Colangelo will be bumped upstairs into an executive role with no basketball-related input. The man who arrived with a ‘no-meddling’ guarantee now has to take the same oath of non-interference.

The better bit? Though word of his effective dismissal was being reported on Monday morning, Colangelo is still slated to attend Tuesday’s draft lottery in New York City on behalf of the team.

In his first year in town in 2006, he ‘won’ the ping pong ball showdown and turned it into the most frustrating No. 1 pick of the decade. (Hello, Andrea Bargnani.) There would be a wonderful symmetry if Colangelo won again, in what promises to be the weakest draft class in memory. Get them coming and going, as it were.

If he wins — a 1-in-100 stab — I plan to have his reaction shot fresco’d on my living room wall.

Either way, the irony in all this is so heavy it can’t get through airport security without a pat down.

From the outset, this personnel exercise has had a broken telephone feel to it, minus the telephone. If there is a plan, it isn’t apparent. This has stunk of disarray all along, and Monday’s leaked reveal only deepened that impression.

The latest favourite to succeed Colangelo is Denver Nuggets GM Masai Ujiri.

Ujiri turned the Nuggets into a powerhouse, in part, by leveraging real value from Carmelo Anthony’s forced departure. That template would be very useful in the first job of any new boss — getting rid of Andrea Bargnani without being scalped in the bargain.

That’s the plus side.

On the down side, Ujiri came up under Colangelo’s wing in Toronto.

“Masai is so close to Bryan. Can he be his own man?” one league source wondered on Tuesday.

The power-balance between the pair has changed since Ujiri was Colangelo’s No. 2, but the more important thing hasn’t — Colangelo himself.

It’s possible the men who decided to keep him around have never watched him operate from up-close. He is incapable of keeping his oars out of water. He has a deep-seated need to do things — even if they are terrible ideas.

People in the organization have spoken in the past of their fear whenever a trade deadline neared, knowing Colangelo was jonesing for action.

All of his worst deals were born of that temperament (and, in fairness, so were his good ones).

He isn’t going to be able to hit a mental switch and become a trippy-hippie wandering around the executive suites high-fiving the real operators. He’s going to want to be heard and — more ominously — to hear.

Ujiri will face a painful teething problem if and when he arrives, pushing his friend and mentor off to the wings.

It’s also entirely possible Ujiri’s people are feeding out this story in the hopes of driving up Denver’s price (he’s currently renegotiating his deal there). If that’s the case, the Raptors may turn closer to home, and current team vice-president Ed Stefanski.

Say this definitively about the former 76ers GM — he won’t have any problem finding some pasture for Colangelo to occupy. There are no debts owed between the pair.

Whoever it turns out to be, it has been handled atrociously.

Given two clear options — to re-hire or fire Colangelo — MLSE chose neither of them and took their sweet time doing it. Even worse, they’re already setting the next guy up for a PR nightmare.

When he arrives, the new GM will look down two open paths — he can either stick with what Colangelo created or begin tearing it apart.

For now, the route of least change seems advisable. Coach Dwane Casey has one year left on his deal. Colangelo’s auto-repeat about “the core” is no less true for having been said too often. There isn’t a whole lot that’s obviously wrong with this team. If they make small, off-season advances, they can compete now.

And once they do, the problems start.

One can only imagine Colangelo’s public tumescence if the squad he built finally stops belching smoke every time you turn it on.

The distracting storyline that trailed the Leafs all season long — ‘Does Brian Burke deserve the credit for this?’ — will be repeated and amplified, because in this case, the distraction is still here.

Imagine buying a house, and then realizing that your wife’s ex-husband rents out the basement. That’s what the new guy is agreeing to.

Without any pressure or need to do so, MLSE has hung Bryan Colangelo around the neck of the next Raptors regime.

Don’t be surprised if they choke on him.

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