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Bankiz 12-11-2011 05:52 AM

the plan ?
 
I understand the BC's plan.

1. a new coach, whom preach defense.
2. Create a new system, and build a new culture around defense.
3. developping young talent.
4. creating a winning team, who can compete.

so where are we ?
1. chack !
2. we will see !
3. in progress !
4. if they want to create a OKC or philadelphia team, they will need more than high pick.
yes, we have DD, ed and now jonas. and we will have another pick this year.
but how do you bring here solid player to compete with your raising-star ?
because i see all the good player take a salary cut, only to get a ring.

the lockout was for nothing ? beacause more big market will have big star team :
lakers, miami, boston, chicago, NYK,

and after them a second group of team who can/could compete : Dallas, SAS, OKC, Memphis, Atlanta, Nets, Orlando.

that put 12 teams already in the mix.

what about the others ?
WEST:
1. who can make the playoffs : portland, denver.
2. who will compete for the 8th spot :
GSW, PHX, UTAH, NOH, Clippers, KIngs, Houston.

EAST:
Phily CHarlottre, Indiana, Bucks, Pistons, Wash, Cavs and toronto.

i put phily and indy ahead of us righjt now, beacuse they already have a good season last year and a solid young core of player, with talent !
but i don't think we are ahead of the others and we need to be on the same level at least than phily and indiana if we want to really compete, and a brighter futur.

but i don't see how BC can bring here some talents, real talents, other than with picks. because our trade assets are very limited.

i hope his plan can be a little alterate, so he can trade barg + barbo + caldy (or amnesty him). and bring here player who really can change things.

i's the only way we can improve to be serious client for the big market teams. and we need to do that next season. Not in 2 or 3 years.
because in 2 or 3, DD and ed will be gone if we don't improve as quickly as possible in the next 2 seasons.

what are your toughts on this plan, and how he can make it right ?

Bankiz 12-11-2011 05:54 AM

before any contreversy on the NEts, i just presume they will get some big FA.

Blaze 12-11-2011 03:32 PM

The plan to me seems to just wait until next year and see who's staying and going then get a high draft pick, wait for Val and bring in a good FA.

0nekhmer 12-11-2011 03:42 PM

We are finally tanking legitimately. No more hedos, jermaines, marions for quick fixes!

Ammo 12-11-2011 06:03 PM

I thought this was the alleged plan 2012....

Westbrook(Free agent)/Bayless
Derozan/(proceeds of Amir and/or Calderon expiring trade)
H. Barnes(pick)/JJ
Bargnani/Davis (or Amir)
JV/Grey/Alabi

pzabby 12-11-2011 06:35 PM

that would be a 50 win team and that's impossible in raptor land.. i thought you knew that!

:cookie:

Ammo 12-11-2011 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pzabby (Post 586233)
that would be a 50 win team and that's impossible in raptor land.. i thought you knew that!

:cookie:

If the team is going to change it's culture, the fans have to change their culture too. Never mind 50, in 2014, that could be 60 wins. :winner_third_h4h:

ValanciunasFanboy 12-11-2011 07:56 PM

At least 60. Jonas alone will win you over 40 games. Derozan, Barnes and Davis (with some growing up) another 20. And Bargs with Westbrook another 2 or 3. So, at least 62-63, maybe 70.

DDUnreal 12-11-2011 08:37 PM

This is it boys. Brace yourselves for the greatest dynasty Toronto has ever seen. Leafs who?

JDMtors 12-11-2011 08:50 PM

The team is slowly improving finally going towrads the right step. I see us not improving much from last season avging around 20-25 wins again. I think our real year we will compete is the following year. This is going to be a huge yera for DD to see if he can be a leader or just an avg starter. I think in 2012 if things go right we should be at a 40-50 pace team imo. This years draft would be looking for a SF mainly unless one of those Cs do fall to us that you cant pass up on. In 2013s drafts we would be looking for one of those many stars that are coming out, or taking a shot at the FA agency

Ammo 12-11-2011 09:08 PM

this year, 16 wins -let's get real
2102 44 wins - JV, free agent PG, high pick
2013 50 wins - youth gels, no longer unrespected
2014 60 wins - no more rookie starters, last tweeks to roster, Bargnani grows a pair :Arrogant:

ValanciunasFanboy 12-11-2011 09:24 PM

NBA will contract you in 2015 though, it's not fair for small market team to win so many games

raptorchick 12-12-2011 07:53 PM

I guess for you guys, if you want to experience pointlessness watching the Raptors is less painful than sticking your dicks into an electric fan.

Ammo 12-13-2011 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptorchick (Post 586572)
I guess for you guys, if you want to experience pointlessness watching the Raptors is less painful than sticking your dicks into an electric fan.

It's only painful if you have delusions of 8th place.....or if you think Casey is a moron, JV is a bust, they will spend their mega cap space on Gilbert Arenas and their 2012 high lottery will be a bust.

DanH 12-13-2011 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptorchick (Post 586572)
I guess for you guys, if you want to experience pointlessness watching the Raptors is less painful than sticking your dicks into an electric fan.

Ha. Well done.


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