Petition: Open Letter to Ujiri

LuffyGear2 · 12-05-2013, 08:16 AM

https://www.change.org/petitions/map...tainable#share

I know that not everybody on this board is pro tanking, but i thought that those who are should know about this.

nobody has to agree with to content of this letter and it is still a legitimate point to make a move to make a run to the playoffs.

LX · 12-05-2013, 10:30 AM

I don't understand this kind of stuff. Do fans that sign petitions think a good GM would make decisions in any way based on such things? To me it suggests that they doubt the qualifications of the GM, and perhaps should organize a movement to get a new GM.

moremilk · 12-05-2013, 10:50 AM

Sometimes leaders are afraid to make unpopular decisions and it may be that a gm has a tough time selling a decision to his boardboard.

Really doubt either scenario applies to us though.

LX · 12-05-2013, 11:12 AM

Yeah - that would pretty much be a definition of a poor GM.

LOG · 12-05-2013, 12:24 PM

apparently MU replied to email, his response was:

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Thanks for your email. We understand.

moremilk · 12-05-2013, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LX

Yeah - that would pretty much be a definition of a poor GM.

um, how so?
Say a GM knows he needs to trade the franchise player, but he needs approval from the board. And when he pitches the idea, the board says: "no, that can't happen, we'd lose our fan base". In that case, having some kind of proof that the fan base actually is on board with that idea would strengthen his case.

Blaze · 12-05-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LX

I don't understand this kind of stuff. Do fans that sign petitions think a good GM would make decisions in any way based on such things? To me it suggests that they doubt the qualifications of the GM, and perhaps should organize a movement to get a new GM.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! · 12-05-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaze

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Thief

:mattyd:

12-05-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LX

I don't understand this kind of stuff. Do fans that sign petitions think a good GM would make decisions in any way based on such things? To me it suggests that they doubt the qualifications of the GM, and perhaps should organize a movement to get a new GM.

Totally agree with this. A GM is not going to listen to fans simply because their job is on the line at all times. Imagine if fans in Toronto or all around Canada sent a petition to :mu: saying you should trade all of our players and acquire just Canadian talent because we are the only Canadian basketball team in the NBA. Does anyone actually think he would do something like that, answer is hell no. Most GM's know more about the game then the average fan, though their are some exceptions.

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu · 12-05-2013, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LX

Yeah - that would pretty much be a definition of a poor GM and a bad leader that isn't leading.

FYP

LX · 12-05-2013, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk

um, how so?
Say a GM knows he needs to trade the franchise player, but he needs approval from the board. And when he pitches the idea, the board says: "no, that can't happen, we'd lose our fan base". In that case, having some kind of proof that the fan base actually is on board with that idea would strengthen his case.

I could be wrong, but i think any really good GM would not take a job under such conditions.

rapsmannn · 12-05-2013, 11:07 PM

the fan is right though, anything between 5 and 12 is nba purgatory

MikeToronto · 12-06-2013, 06:02 PM

This topic has been chewed up to death and beyond. As someone who's been championing a proper tank ever since the draft has been solidified as "as close to 2003 as it gets", I find it refreshing that more and more people get behind this simple idea of not being stuck in mediocrity forever. However, it is also obvious to me that to many others the pragmatic approach is simply not palatable. No amount of petitions or signatures are ever going to fix that, and most certainly it won't work on GMs out there - one simply has to assume that what's obvious to the casual (albeit passionate) fans, should be more than obvious to a professional.

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LuffyGear2 just hating the nba !!! Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 350 Representing:	Petition: Open Letter to Ujiri https://www.change.org/petitions/map...tainable#share I know that not everybody on this board is pro tanking, but i thought that those who are should know about this. nobody has to agree with to content of this letter and it is still a legitimate point to make a move to make a run to the playoffs. Last edited by LuffyGear2; 12-05-2013 at 08:38 AM.

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12-05-2013, 10:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
LX effin' ineffable In the Paint Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 30,070 Representing:	I don't understand this kind of stuff. Do fans that sign petitions think a good GM would make decisions in any way based on such things? To me it suggests that they doubt the qualifications of the GM, and perhaps should organize a movement to get a new GM.

12-05-2013, 10:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
moremilk whatever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 10,417 Representing:	Sometimes leaders are afraid to make unpopular decisions and it may be that a gm has a tough time selling a decision to his boardboard. Really doubt either scenario applies to us though.

12-05-2013, 11:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
LX effin' ineffable In the Paint Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 30,070 Representing:	Yeah - that would pretty much be a definition of a poor GM.

12-05-2013, 11:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
rapsmannn hopefully we use our draft pick this year, let's not miss out this years Rodney hood Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,093 Representing:	the fan is right though, anything between 5 and 12 is nba purgatory

12-06-2013, 06:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
MikeToronto Gam zeh ya'avor The Gatekeeper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,073 Representing:	This topic has been chewed up to death and beyond. As someone who's been championing a proper tank ever since the draft has been solidified as "as close to 2003 as it gets", I find it refreshing that more and more people get behind this simple idea of not being stuck in mediocrity forever. However, it is also obvious to me that to many others the pragmatic approach is simply not palatable. No amount of petitions or signatures are ever going to fix that, and most certainly it won't work on GMs out there - one simply has to assume that what's obvious to the casual (albeit passionate) fans, should be more than obvious to a professional.