over/UNDER • Planet Ball 500 • May 10

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MIA @ BKN will go OVER 188.5 6 54.55%
MIA @ BKN will stay under 188.5 5 45.45%
pits••Ray Allen will oughtskoah (outscore) Paul Pierce by 2 or more 1 9.09%
pits••Ray Allen will NOT oughtskoah Paul Pierce by 2 or more 8 72.73%
SAS @ POR will go OVER 209.5 7 63.64%
SAS @ POR will stay under 209.5 4 36.36%
pits••Nic Batum will démarqué (outscore) B Diaw by 8 or more 4 36.36%
pits••Nic Batum will NOT démarqué B Diaw by 8 or more 3 27.27%
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It's ten laps for every correct pick for the points in the game o/u

+5 laps for correct pitstop picks
-5 laps for incorrect pitstop picks

you do not need to make a pitstop
it's a chance to gain laps, or lose laps if things don't go smoothly

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Old 05-10-2014, 12:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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maybe you can change the way you score pit questions, to 0, 5 and 10. Makes no difference, but inflates the scores.

Would also make an interesting experiement for next season, where the bonus question never subtracts, but gives you 0, 2 and 4 (as opposed to -2, 0 and 2). I would predict more people would answer the bonus question if structured like that ...
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It does make difference, because you loose points if your pit is incorect. It makes you think twice if you really want to make a pit stop
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yeah - i like the gambling aspect

I want to add picks on wins or losses against the spread and make use of a multiplier effect, but still keep the losses in play for the prop sort of bet.
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LX; démarqué in fench (maybe not in canadian) means OPen. (on soprt fields) not outscore !
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LX; démarqué in fench (maybe not in canadian) means OPen. (on soprt fields) not outscore !
lousy google translate. Sorry about that Bankiz.
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It does make difference, because you loose points if your pit is incorect. It makes you think twice if you really want to make a pit stop
um, no, it doesn't, -5/0/5 is the same as 0/5/10 ... and -2/0/2 the same as 0/2/4. The difference is purely psychological.

In this final round, where the goal is to get to 500 first, it does make a slight difference in the sense that it's quicker to get to 500.
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um, no, it doesn't, -5/0/5 is the same as 0/5/10 ... and -2/0/2 the same as 0/2/4. The difference is purely psychological.

In this final round, where the goal is to get to 500 first, it does make a slight difference in the sense that it's quicker to get to 500.
It's not.. In your proposed scenario you are giving much more value to the pit.
regular pick is 10 laps, pit is 5 or -5 in your scenario regular pick is 10 laps and pit is 10, so while the point difference is the same the pit becomes much bigger factor with no actual penalty so it only make sense to make a pit every time.

and it doesn't need to be 500 if we will have trouble getting there (looks like we will), LX can arrange final laps accordingly next time
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It's not.. In your proposed scenario you are giving much more value to the pit.
regular pick is 10 laps, pit is 5 or -5 in your scenario regular pick is 10 laps and pit is 10, so while the point difference is the same the pit becomes much bigger factor with no actual penalty so it only make sense to make a pit every time.

and it doesn't need to be 500 if we will have trouble getting there (looks like we will), LX can arrange final laps accordingly next time
what you are saying is a perfect demonstration of my assumption that the psychological effect is very large because of the negative values.

say you get both the question and the pit right, and I get the question but miss the pit.

under the old model
you would have 10 + 5 = 15 points
and I would have 10-5 = 5 points
You would get a 10 points lead

under the new model
you would have 10 + 10 = 20 points
I would have 10 + 0 = 10 points
You would get a 10 point lead

You can repeat the same calculations for any combination of right/wrong answers for the question/pit, and you will see that the difference between you and me will remain the same under both models.

You are ignoring the fact that the pit carries the same penalty in both models, because I could just not answer it and get 5 points - by gambling with an answer, I can get 5 extra points or lose 5 extra points.

The only real effect is that we'd get to 500 quicker. In the regular rounds, where the goal is to get the most points, it would have absolutely no impact.
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