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MangoKidHoops 11-30-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kia4ever (Post 280819)
You guys are right
If this season doesn't work out, we need to get rid of bosh, dump Bargs, Hedo, Calderon and and try to get as many draft picks and young players as we can get. We need to go through a legit rebuilding phase. But we need to dump the dead weight

Dumping these guys and acquiring many draft selections doesn't always work out. This isn't hockey or baseball.

CB4Real 11-30-2009 02:02 PM

not d-wade but i think chris paul could be the solution to this team and he is actually releastic option of going after unlike wade

possible trade is bargnani + banks + pob sounds good to me and i think new orleans would take this because they found a new talent with their new point gaurd bobby brown or something he is pretty good

MangoKidHoops 11-30-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CB4Real (Post 280857)
not d-wade but i think chris paul could be the solution to this team and he is actually releastic option of going after unlike wade

possible trade is bargnani + banks + pob sounds good to me and i think new orleans would take this because they found a new talent with their new point gaurd bobby brown or something he is pretty good

Take your trade idea to the proposal thread.

That offer would be laughed off by the Hornets' brass. Who really wants Banks or POB? Those guys are fodder. Bargnani is nowhere on the same level as Paul.

RAPMAN 11-30-2009 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CB4Real (Post 280857)
not d-wade but i think chris paul could be the solution to this team and he is actually releastic option of going after unlike wade

possible trade is bargnani + banks + pob sounds good to me and i think new orleans would take this because they found a new talent with their new point gaurd bobby brown or something he is pretty good


They have OKAFOR & David West in the frontcourt. They are right now looking for a swingman. Also, you think they are going to get rid of their franchise player & the best point guard in the league for Bargnani & one overpaid point guard who doesn't see the floor, and Loren Woods.

moremilk 11-30-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RAPMAN (Post 280811)
Ever hear of the Salary Cap? First we gave a 30 year small forward a five year contract for 10 million a year. Do you think any team would want to invest that type of money a 30 year old player. Second, we gave the softest center in the NBA a similiar contract. If you're talking about Wade and Chris Paul, the Raptors will have to relieve themselves of these contracts. If you walk up to the Hornets or Miami and offer them a 30 year-old small forward & the next Memhet Okur for players just entering their prime and who play both ends of the floor, they will show you the door. It ain't gonna happen!!

dallas just gave two ~35 old players almost the same salary (kidd and marion). Nash just got a bigger contract at the same age. Ray Allen and R. Wallace is in the same position. Carter got 16 million at 33. Kobe will get 20 at 32.

30 is not old by any nba standards. Very few playes lose productivity sharply before 34-35, and all who do, rely on speed and athleticism as opposed to smarts and shooting abilities.

bladeraptor 11-30-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 280873)
dallas just gave two ~35 old players almost the same salary (kidd and marion). Nash just got a bigger contract at the same age. Ray Allen and R. Wallace is in the same position. Carter got 16 million at 33. Kobe will get 20 at 32.

30 is not old by any nba standards. Very few playes lose productivity sharply before 34-35, and all who do, rely on speed and athleticism as opposed to smarts and shooting abilities.


This. it all depends upon whether or not turk can be bothered to keep going.

nathanapes 11-30-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 280873)
dallas just gave two ~35 old players almost the same salary (kidd and marion). Nash just got a bigger contract at the same age. Ray Allen and R. Wallace is in the same position. Carter got 16 million at 33. Kobe will get 20 at 32.

30 is not old by any nba standards. Very few playes lose productivity sharply before 34-35, and all who do, rely on speed and athleticism as opposed to smarts and shooting abilities.

It's all about how well you take care of yourself. Those Pheonix doctors are something else: Hill, Shaq, McDyess, Nash, Stoudamire. All these guys have to be grateful to be in contact with these doctors.

RAPMAN 11-30-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 280873)
dallas just gave two ~35 old players almost the same salary (kidd and marion). Nash just got a bigger contract at the same age. Ray Allen and R. Wallace is in the same position. Carter got 16 million at 33. Kobe will get 20 at 32.

30 is not old by any nba standards. Very few playes lose productivity sharply before 34-35, and all who do, rely on speed and athleticism as opposed to smarts and shooting abilities.

Don't mess with numbers with an accountant. First of all, Rasheed signed for the Mid-Level this summer. So he is making 6.3 Million for a couple of years. Marion signed a contract for 7.8 million per year. Kidd signed an extension for 8.3 Million per year for only 3 years. So these players make less money than Hedo, and in the case of Kidd and Rasheed, signed for less years.

Please don't compare Kobe, Nash, and Carter with Hedo. Hedo is a good player, but he is not in the neighborhood of these players.


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