The Official RF Trade Proposal Thread - Page 98
Old 05-05-2012, 05:32 AM   #1941 (permalink)
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i couldn't get this to work in trade machine because batum is greyed out due to his contract and portland has wage cap issues. Have they still got an amnesty? did they only waive oden? anyway, something along thses lines?

Tor- batum + markieff morris + suns '12 1st rnd pick
Suns- Ed + Bargs + JJ
Por- Jose + Dudley + (one of our '12 picks or 13/14 1st rnd pick)
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:08 AM   #1942 (permalink)
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if this deal going to happen at draft night; you can't do it, becaue batum is a RFA.

and to be fair, you give too much to suns for only dudley, morris + 1st suns 2012.
Brg is enough to get this.


ps :
somebody can tell us if you can trade the rights of a RFA ???
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:15 AM   #1943 (permalink)
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if this deal going to happen at draft night; you can't do it, becaue batum is a RFA.

and to be fair, you give too much to suns for only dudley, morris + 1st suns 2012.
Brg is enough to get this.


ps :
somebody can tell us if you can trade the rights of a RFA ???
yes, it's a complicated deal to make work. i just wanted to make a deal that gets us batum! also, it's a start again tactic. We'd have lots of good young pieces and obviously would be great to sign a FA or two, hopefully a PG.

As you know it's hard to make tardes here that people think are realistic! so i tried to make one that other teams really would consider. M Morris is slightly higher value than Ed? after his good rookie season. And they're giving up their 1st rnd pick.
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Old 05-05-2012, 08:47 AM   #1944 (permalink)
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you know people always talk about tier when then cut the all nba players.

but it's more a quarter thing to me :
you have the mega star, the all-star, the role player and the scrubs or fillers to be polite.

bargnani is between good role player and all star, just at the line.
Dudley is good but not at the same level, and morris even if he is a solid rookie, he is just a prospect right now. the 14th can get us a good player, but not a super star.
i see your point but for what i know you still can't acquire a RFA before the summer.

i stay put on this one :

1.summer :
Portland get Calderon + 1st toronto 2013 + Kleiza
toronto get Batum (12M) + E williams

2.
orlando get Barg + Amir + 2nd rd 2013 + 2nd rd 2014
toronto get Reddick + R. Anderson (S&T - 8M)


Bayless or FA/Marshall/uzoh
DD/Redick/williams
Batum/JJ/2nd rd tor 2012
Anderson/Davis/2nd rd indy 2012
Gray/JV/Magz or alabi

we will still have our tpe, and our capspace to sign a solid PG or bayless.
we need to not forget about the futur contract of DD and JJ coming up next season.

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Old 05-05-2012, 09:00 AM   #1945 (permalink)
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orlando get Barg + Amir + 2nd rd 2013 + 2nd rd 2014
toronto get Reddick + R. Anderson (S&T - 8M)
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:54 AM   #1946 (permalink)
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ps :
somebody can tell us if you can trade the rights of a RFA ???
Nope. Needs to be a sign and trade at that point, and that can't happen until the summer.
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:45 PM   #1947 (permalink)
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Pretty simple.

Now that we've dropped down to 8th:

8th Overall Pick 2012
+
Pacers' 2nd rounder

for

Jennings

I honestly am not sure if they would bite though.
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:49 PM   #1948 (permalink)
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Pretty simple.

Now that we've dropped down to 8th:

8th Overall Pick 2012
+
Pacers' 2nd rounder

for

Jennings

I honestly am not sure if they would bite though.
Nooooooooooo not another one on the Jennings bandwagon... ugh I don't want him.
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:49 PM   #1949 (permalink)
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I'd rather start Bayless and keep him on the cheap than waste a top 10 pick on Jennings.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:34 PM   #1950 (permalink)
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1. draft night
a.
Utah get calderon
Toronto get tpe + 1st GSW.

b.
Boston get Davis
Toronto get 1st boston 2012

c.
#8=> Marshall (PG)
#Gsw (if more than 7th)=> Sullinger (PF)
# 21 : Royce White(SF)


2. summer we renonce calderon's tpe, we will have 21M in capspace + 7.6M tpe (barbosa)

a. give batum for 12M (48M/4yrs)

b.
orlando get tpe + 1st toronto 2013
Toronto get Redick

c. resign bayless (if not a FA) and Gray.



Bayless or FA/Marshall/2nd rd indy 2012
DD/Redick/2nd rd tor 2012
Batum/JJ/White
Barg/Sullinger/Kleiza
Gray/JV/Amir

let's go becoming a cointender
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:44 PM   #1951 (permalink)
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Boston's not giving that pick to us if there's a chance they can get Rivers.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:20 PM   #1952 (permalink)
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Boston's not giving that pick to us if there's a chance they can get Rivers.
Ha, yeah Rivers will be available @21. Rme

Why don't we pick Rivers and package him in a deal for Rondo.

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Old 05-07-2012, 08:43 PM   #1953 (permalink)
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1. draft night
a.
Utah get calderon
Toronto get tpe + 1st GSW.

b.
Boston get Davis
Toronto get 1st boston 2012

c.
#8=> Marshall (PG)
#Gsw (if more than 7th)=> Sullinger (PF)
# 21 : Royce White(SF)


2. summer we renonce calderon's tpe, we will have 21M in capspace + 7.6M tpe (barbosa)

a. give batum for 12M (48M/4yrs)

b.
orlando get tpe + 1st toronto 2013
Toronto get Redick

c. resign bayless (if not a FA) and Gray.



Bayless or FA/Marshall/2nd rd indy 2012
DD/Redick/2nd rd tor 2012
Batum/JJ/White
Barg/Sullinger/Kleiza
Gray/JV/Amir

let's go becoming a cointender
in fact i will change some things :

1. draft night
a.
Utah get calderon
Toronto get tpe + 1st GSW.

b.
PHX get Davis
Toronto get 1st pick PHX (#13)

c.
SAS get 2nd rd indy 2012 + money
toronto get C. Joseph

d.
#8=> Marshall (PG)
# 13 => Sullinger
#37 => K Jospeh

2. Summer
with 12M in capspace + 7.6M tpe barbosa + 9.8M Calderon.
a. we renonce calderon's tpe, and offer 12M to Batum. (48/4years)
b. we offer 8M to nash (27M/3years)

c
Orlando get Tpe + 1st toronto 2013
Toronto get Redick.

D. we resign Gray to 3M (10M/3years) and Magz to min vet.

Nash/Marshall/C.Joseph
DD/Redick/K. Joseph
Batum/JJ/Kleiza
Barg/Sullinger/Amir
Gray/JV/Magz

if we renonce tje rest of barbosa tpe (850m)we will be over the cap (~65M). and we still have the 1st gsw next season.(top 6 protected).
But our team will be a playoffs runner for the next 3 to 6 years.

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Old 05-07-2012, 08:59 PM   #1954 (permalink)
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^ That's great but i doubt that we could get Nash for 8mil
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:34 PM   #1955 (permalink)
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Just letting it be known that you're not going very far if Aaron Gray is your starting Center. Obviously we have JV but he won't be ready next year and it will take time for him to adjust.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:41 PM   #1956 (permalink)
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yeah, maybe, but at this pont, when it's time to resign him, you have no more money.
you need also to think you would have to think about DD and JJ extension next season.
so if a take all in count, i think even if we don't go over thesecond round, even the first, that will be the first in 5 long years.
and you can still add a big men during the season, with Kleiza + Gray + 1st gsw.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:43 PM   #1957 (permalink)
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orlando get Barg + Amir + 2nd rd 2013 + 2nd rd 2014
toronto get Reddick + R. Anderson (S&T - 8M)
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in fact i will change some things :

1. draft night
a.
Utah get calderon
Toronto get tpe + 1st GSW.

b.
PHX get Davis
Toronto get 1st pick PHX (#13)

c.
SAS get 2nd rd indy 2012 + money
toronto get C. Joseph

d.
#8=> Marshall (PG)
# 13 => Sullinger
#37 => K Jospeh

2. Summer
with 12M in capspace + 7.6M tpe barbosa + 9.8M Calderon.
a. we renonce calderon's tpe, and offer 12M to Batum. (48/4years)
b. we offer 8M to nash (27M/3years)

c
Orlando get Tpe + 1st toronto 2013
Toronto get Redick.

D. we resign Gray to 3M (10M/3years) and Magz to min vet.

Nash/Marshall/C.Joseph
DD/Redick/K. Joseph
Batum/JJ/Kleiza
Barg/Sullinger/Amir
Gray/JV/Magz

if we renonce tje rest of barbosa tpe (850m)we will be over the cap (~65M). and we still have the 1st gsw next season.(top 6 protected).
But our team will be a playoffs runner for the next 3 to 6 years.
having 4 rookies off the bench, and a C rotation of Gray, JV, Magloire will not make us any better.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:04 PM   #1959 (permalink)
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Tor Trades:
James Johnson, Amir Johnson, Gary Forbes & our 1st round pick

4

ATL:
Josh Smith

Tor Trades:
Jerryd Bayless & 2nd

4

Hou:
Sign & trade of Goran Dragic

Then we sign Eric Gordon.

PG: Dragic/Jose/2nd
SG: (DeRozan SG/SF)/Gordon(6th man)
SF: Smith(SF/PF)/(Klieza SF/PF)/(Anderson SF/SG)
PF: AB/Ed/FA
C: JV/Grey/Mags/Alabi

I love this team!
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:17 PM   #1960 (permalink)
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Tor Trades:
James Johnson, Amir Johnson, Gary Forbes & our 1st round pick

4

ATL:
Josh Smith

Tor Trades:
Jerryd Bayless & 2nd

4

Hou:
Sign & trade of Goran Dragic

Then we sign Eric Gordon.

PG: Dragic/Jose/2nd
SG: (DeRozan SG/SF)/Gordon(6th man)
SF: Smith(SF/PF)/(Klieza SF/PF)/(Anderson SF/SG)
PF: AB/Ed/FA
C: JV/Grey/Mags/Alabi

I love this team!
What kind of contracts are you imagining for Dragic and Gordon? Are you re-signing JSMith as well (FA after next season)? That would be a wild team to watch, but dear god you better have a good explanation for starting DD over Gordon.
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