The Official RF Trade Proposal Thread - Page 8
Old 05-26-2010, 12:21 PM   #141 (permalink)
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I think my scenario is better:
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Old 05-26-2010, 04:51 PM   #142 (permalink)
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I was fooling around with espn trade machine...trying 2 make up some trades,I guess we can make this thread as Espn trade machine...post your trade and explain your self....cheers..


Here is mine.....

Detroit receives:

Elton Brand
Hedo Turkoglu
Sunny Weems


Philedelphia Sixers receive:

Jose Calderon
Richard Hamilton
Marco Bellenelli

Toronto Raptors receive:

Tayshaun Prince
Andre Iguodala

Helps all the teams,pretty much everyone needs changes...
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Old 05-26-2010, 05:07 PM   #143 (permalink)
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I doubt Detroit wants Brand and Turk that too without giving up Gordon or Charlie V
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Old 05-26-2010, 05:10 PM   #144 (permalink)
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I doubt Detroit wants Brand and Turk that too without giving up Gordon or Charlie V
If i'm BC i wouldnt mind taking in Gordon.
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Old 05-26-2010, 05:19 PM   #145 (permalink)
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What kind of day would it be without a Snooch trade:

LAC trades:
Baron

gets:
Jack, Evans

LAC shed tremendous amout of salary and gains a more than capable pg to replace BD



NYK trades:
Curry

Gets:
Jose

NYK sheds salary immediately and adds a starting pg



Philly trades:
Iggy, Brand

gets:
Demar, 13th pick, Banks, Curry, 3m cash

Philly drops ALOT of salary and opens space for some young guys to grow. Jrue, Demar, Speights, Young is a solid young core.


Toronto trades;
Jose, Jack, Demar, Banks, Evans, 13th, 3m Cash

gets:
Baron, Iggy, Brand

Toronto adds alot of slary and loses some youth but upgrades talent a huge amount and has a better blend of defense and offensive styles. Use full MLE on a pg(Blake, Luke), Resign Amir, Rasho, Wright.

Baron/Luke
Iggy/wright/beli
Turk/weems/
bosh/amir/dorsey
bargs/brand/rasho
+100000000

Greatest trades i've seen so far.

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Old 05-26-2010, 10:02 PM   #146 (permalink)
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Greatest trades i've seen so far.
I have to admit that scenario is really good!

It would keep Bosh here IMO

I hope BC see's this one snooch!

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Old 05-26-2010, 10:37 PM   #147 (permalink)
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I have to admit that scenario is really good!

It would keep Bosh here IMO

I hope BC see's this one snooch!
The trades are great, I just feel Bosh will be slightly annoyed by losing Jack.
If that is the reality though, Bosh deserves a solid :facepalm:
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:29 PM   #148 (permalink)
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what would it take to get Danny Granger??? is he basically unobtainable?
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:43 PM   #149 (permalink)
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what would it take to get Danny Granger??? is he basically unobtainable?
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:18 PM   #150 (permalink)
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Is it weird that I want us to trade for Arenas?

With Bosh gone, we need someone who can put up offense. Nobody, maybe not even Andrea himselfi, has the confidence to let Bargnani run this offense. Bargnani seems to need another guy to make the huge plays, so let Arenas pick up the scoring slack and Bargnani continue to improve as the #2 option.

We'd also solve the PG problem, be able to fill a gap with whatever we trade Jose for, and keep Jack as the backup.

Yeah Arenas has issues but it's not like McGrady or Marbury where their production level tanked. Arenas was still one of the best in the league a year ago and he may have learned a very humbling lesson and will want to revive his career.

I think Evans and one or two other minor players would be good enough for Washington to get rid of him because of Wall's imminent arrival.

Fuck it, let's roll the dice and see what happens. With our fast-approaching irrelevancy upon the departure of Bosh, what have we got to lose?
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Old 05-27-2010, 02:30 PM   #151 (permalink)
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The trades are great, I just feel Bosh will be slightly annoyed by losing Jack.
If that is the reality though, Bosh deserves a solid :facepalm:
no he wont, because him and baron are boys...
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Old 05-27-2010, 05:30 PM   #152 (permalink)
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Is it weird that I want us to trade for Arenas?
I was a supporter of Arenas trade not too long ago. Main reason - to get a player with some swagger and indeed a proper scorer.

But the financial, health, chemistry and attitude problems make it very scary.
Worst of all if shit hits the fan, it could cripple us for 4 years! Nobody will take him off our hands then.

But Arenas does need a change of scenery. This year he was healthy and played well. Lacked confidence as his game swung from being assist-first PG to to being his old self jumpshooter off the dribble. But overall he was in shape.

Another big postive - chance to rid ourselves of Calderon or Turkoglu long term contracts.

Consider Bosh leaving we will need to blow up the team anyway. Collect picks, get some experience for the youth and spend next 3 years out of playoffs. Arenas contract is not that big of a problem then.

Turkoglu, Banks, Belinelli to Washington
Bargnani, Evans, TJ Ford to Philadelphia
Brand, #2(Phi), Jason Smith and Marreese Speights, #36(Ind) Arenas, #30(Was) to Toronto
Calderon and #13 to Indiana

Add picks from Bosh S&T and we can add up to 6 players from the draft. Triano is good coach for young guys, in 3 years it will be a beast of a team.

Arenas/Jack
Derozan/Weems
Turner/(Wright)
Brand/Amir
Speights/Jason Smith
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Old 05-27-2010, 06:30 PM   #153 (permalink)
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If arenas were to be on this team I would think that HEdo playing the sf spot would be a good thing(outside of defense)
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:08 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Arenas is likely a huge gamble but they want him out of Washington
Jose, Evans, Beli would do it with Washington picking up salary.

Arenas last year started giving more assists
Snooch is right he would help Turks play hopefully.
Bargs for help Arenas open up space and Arenas would make point guars work harder on defense than Jose and gang.

We give up one bad contract for another Jose and Arenas but we get the better player.
Both have health issues
Arenas has other issues but was backed by his team-mates in his legal issues so not a cancer in the locker room.

A very bold move and not sure if BC has the fortitude to do it.

Beli is potentially a decent player but think someone like Andy Rautins would be a good replacement. Minimum salary no garantee good 3 point shooter, high BB IQ, combo guard.

JJ could be moved easily for a defensive presence at SF or in a trade to NYK if Bosh goes there for Chandler and Rodriquez.

Resign Amir
Get Whiteside in draft

Use mid level exemption to get defensive help
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Belinelli will never be anything in the NBA. He has no idea how to play an NBA-style game and is completely uninterested in anything but shooting, whether they're from good looks or not.

The last thing the Raptors need is another guy who can't play defense on top of his complete lack of offensive smarts.

Yeah, the Arenas contract would put us in a huge, huge hole if he turned out to be a dud. As is, our current lineup has us trapped for 3-4 years, so what's one more? To me there's no comparison between Jose and Arenas; maybe Arenas can't make plays quite as well but what he makes up for in toughness and straight-up offense is worth more than Calderon anyday.

Arenas/Wright or Draftpick/Turkoglu/DeRozan or Weems/Bargnani is a lineup I can deal with.
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:37 PM   #156 (permalink)
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Bosh, Beli

for

Scola, lowry, 14th pick

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Calderon, Bargnani, Banks (expiring), 14th pick

for

Ellis, Morrow, Turiaf
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MLE- Haywood

13th pick- Xavier Henry


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Ellis/Lowry/Jack (trade him this summer or by next Feb)
Morrow/DD/Henry
Hedo/Weems/DD
Scola/Amir/Turiaf
Haywood/Turiaf/Amir

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Old 05-30-2010, 02:32 PM   #157 (permalink)
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Toronto trades: Turkoglu, Calderon, Wright (S&T),

Receives: Ellis, Chandler, Morrow
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NY Trades: Chandler, Lee, Rodriguez

Receives: Turkoglu, Calderon,Turiaf
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GSW Trade: Ellis, Morrow, Turiaf

Receives: Lee, Wright, Rodriguez

Ellis/Jack/Banks
Morrow/DD/Beli
Chandler/Weems
Bosh/Amir/Evans
Bargnani/Haywood (MLE)

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Old 05-30-2010, 05:47 PM   #158 (permalink)
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Im new to this site but i was wondering that since Buying out Turkoglu makes little sense why not try to trade him to philly for Brand and the 2nd pick. im not sure about the salaries but we would probably have to add some fillers. It seems good to me cause we can get Evan Turner and if Bosh leaves brand could fill in. Just a thought tell me what you think
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Trade 1:

Toronto trades Hedo Turkoglue , Reggie Evans and the number 13 pick to the Sac Kings for Beno Udrih and Andre Nocioni.

Trade 2:
Toronto trades Jose Calderon to the Charlotte Bobcats for Desagna Diop, Gerald Henderson and Derrick Brown


Trade 3

Toronto Raptors trade Andre Bargnani, Jarret Jack, Marcus Banks and a future first round draft pick to the Philadelphia 76'ers for Thaddeus Young, Elton Brand and the #2 overall pick in 2010.

Sign Shaq and Ridnour as free agents along with resigning Bosh

Udrih/Ridnour/Belinelli
Evan Turner/Weems/Henderson
Nocioni/Weems/D.Brown
Young//Brand/D.Brown/Dorsey
Bosh /Shaq/Diop

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Old 05-30-2010, 05:57 PM   #160 (permalink)
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Old one.

Philly would be dumb if they'd do that deal.
Why should they give up their 2nd pick and change one bad contract for another one?
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