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Old 05-24-2010, 01:52 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Is there anyway the Raps could land Marc Gasol in a 3 team S&T for Bosh?
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Old 05-24-2010, 02:01 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Is there anyway the Raps could land Marc Gasol in a 3 team S&T for Bosh?
to think I wanted to trade Gay and Gasol for Bargs and #1 last year
could have worked, but Gasol got better
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Old 05-24-2010, 02:11 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Never say never!

Memphis trades: Gasol, Brewer, 12th pick
To Memphis: Noah, Deng, Weems, 15th pick

Conley
Mayo
Deng
Randolph
Noah

Grizz get a rebounding bigman that is as good, if not better, than Gasol. Get a replacement for Rudy Gay in Deng. Weems is a good young prospect and will replace Brewer.

Chicago trades: Noah, Deng, Hinrich, Gibson, 2nd round pick
To Chicago: Bosh, Calderon, Brewer 12th pick

Rose
Brewer/Henry
Lebron
Bosh
Miller

Chicago gets Bosh without having to use their cap space which they can use on Lebron. Get a good backup PG in Calderon. Use the 12th pick on Xavier Henry. Use any remaining cap space to fill holes (new starting center).

Toronto trades: Bosh, Calderon, Weems
To Toronto: Gasol, Hinrich, Gibson

Hinrich/Jack/Banks
Miller/Bradley/Belli
Hedo/Derozan/Wright
Bargs/Gibson/Evans
Gasol/Amir

Toronto gets a defensive PG in Hinrich. Gasol is the perfect bigman to play alongside Bargs while not messing up BC's Euro plan. Gibson is very Amir-like and can play backup for both the PF and C while sharing minutes with Amir. Sign Miller with the MLE. Draft Bradley. Move Derozan over to the 3.

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Old 05-24-2010, 02:13 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Is there anyway the Raps could land Marc Gasol in a 3 team S&T for Bosh?
If the Raptors want Marc Gasol, he might be available at the trade deadline. See, Gasol's contract expires next summer and the Grizz do not have the right to match any offers. Memphis probably held on to Rudy Gay this year because they know they can match offers and thus have a decent chance of working out a sign and trade. Assuming Gasol keeps developing, he might be due for a hefty raise. I suspect Heisley might push management to move him for something while they still can.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:04 PM   #125 (permalink)
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My realistic trade idea:

To Philadelphia:
Carter – 17.3 million
Orlando 1st pick
Toronto 1st pick
(cap relief, two 1st round draft picks)


To Toronto:
Iguodala - 12.3 million
(half-decent wing)

To Orlando:
Turkoglue – 9.8 million
Belinelli – 2.4 million
Kapono – 6.5 million
(shooters, 9 million in expiring, the man who brought them success in previous years)


Next Trade:

To Golden State:
Evans – 5 million
Banks – 4.5 million
Derozan – 2.5 million
Weems – 1 million
(2 young assets, cap relief (15.5 million the following season) )

To Toronto:
Monta Ellis – 11 million
Ronny Turiaf – 4 million
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:05 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Raptors Line-Up:

Ellis/Jack/ Calderon
Iguodala/X
Wright/X
Bosh/ Johnson
Bargnani/ Turiaf

I would spend the rest of the season shopping Calderon and looking for bargains that will strengthen the bench and back-up a starting line-up of:
Ellis, Iguodala, Wright, Bosh, Bargnani.

Now, I'm not saying this is EXACTLY what I want as a Raptor fan.
But, it is the most realistic scenario I can think of right now if Chris Bosh stays.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:36 PM   #127 (permalink)
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How about these deals?

To Detroit
Calderon + Wright

To Toronto
Gordon + 7th overall

I've been reading that the Pistons are looking for a PG that isn't a shoot first player like Stuckey. I'm sure that Detroit would love to unload Gordon's contract, and it seems like he needs a change of scenery.

To Chicago
Bosh S+T

To Toronto
Noah + 17th overall

To Sixers
7th overall, Turk + Evans

To Toronto
2nd overall + Brand

Draft Evan Turner (2nd), Daniel Orton (13th) and Eric Bledsoe (17th)

Sign Boozer

Noah/Orton/O'Bryant
Boozer/Brand
Bargs/DeRozan
Gordon/Turner/Weems
Jack/Bledsoe/Banks

Crazy?
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:47 PM   #128 (permalink)
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How about these deals?

To Detroit
Calderon + Wright

To Toronto
Gordon + 7th overall

I've been reading that the Pistons are looking for a PG that isn't a shoot first player like Stuckey. I'm sure that Detroit would love to unload Gordon's contract, and it seems like he needs a change of scenery.

To Chicago
Bosh S+T

To Toronto
Noah + 17th overall

To Sixers
7th overall, Turk + Evans

To Toronto
2nd overall + Brand

Draft Evan Turner (2nd), Daniel Orton (13th) and Eric Bledsoe (17th)

Sign Boozer

Noah/Orton/O'Bryant
Boozer/Brand
Bargs/DeRozan
Gordon/Turner/Weems
Jack/Bledsoe/Banks

Crazy?
If we could get Gordon for Jose that would be great but salaries don't match and we would have to resign Wright.

Not a fan of Brand undersized PF injury prone.
Unlikely to get Noah
Why would we resign POB?
Bargs couldn't play SG nor SF nor I really think PF

Wouldn't have cap room to sign Boozer even though he is a good player.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:54 PM   #129 (permalink)
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How about these deals?

To Detroit
Calderon + Wright

To Toronto
Gordon + 7th overall

I've been reading that the Pistons are looking for a PG that isn't a shoot first player like Stuckey. I'm sure that Detroit would love to unload Gordon's contract, and it seems like he needs a change of scenery.

To Chicago
Bosh S+T

To Toronto
Noah + 17th overall

To Sixers
7th overall, Turk + Evans

To Toronto
2nd overall + Brand

Draft Evan Turner (2nd), Daniel Orton (13th) and Eric Bledsoe (17th)

Sign Boozer

Noah/Orton/O'Bryant
Boozer/Brand
Bargs/DeRozan
Gordon/Turner/Weems
Jack/Bledsoe/Banks

Crazy?


your last Evan Turner trade would NEVER happen.
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How about these deals?

To Detroit
Calderon + Wright

To Toronto
Gordon + 7th overall

I've been reading that the Pistons are looking for a PG that isn't a shoot first player like Stuckey. I'm sure that Detroit would love to unload Gordon's contract, and it seems like he needs a change of scenery.

To Chicago
Bosh S+T

To Toronto
Noah + 17th overall

To Sixers
7th overall, Turk + Evans

To Toronto
2nd overall + Brand

Draft Evan Turner (2nd), Daniel Orton (13th) and Eric Bledsoe (17th)

Sign Boozer

Noah/Orton/O'Bryant
Boozer/Brand
Bargs/DeRozan
Gordon/Turner/Weems
Jack/Bledsoe/Banks

Crazy?
It would be great trade for the Raptors but I can not see the other teams doing it. Noah is probably untouchable for the Bulls. They like him and want to keep him. Pistons would not also give up the #7 pick for that. And Philly doesn't want to add a bad contract on in a trade so they probably don't want Hedo.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:21 AM   #131 (permalink)
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Yeah, pretty wishful thinking on my part...
Guess I'm due to be disappointed!
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Old 05-25-2010, 01:47 AM   #132 (permalink)
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Noah is probably untouchable for the Bulls. They like him and want to keep him.
Noah is untouchable UNLESS Lebron shows up and tells Chicago to get him outta there to play with Bosh (and rose obviously).
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If we were to trade Bosh to NJ for only a #3 pick, could we get a TPE of $17 mil?
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:39 PM   #134 (permalink)
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I'm guessing

Bosh
Jack

for

Bynum
Sasha
Powell
#30

Will be the deal
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:07 PM   #135 (permalink)
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I'm guessing

Bosh
Jack

for

Bynum
Sasha
Powell
#30

Will be the deal
The salaries don't match and Powell is a free agent and terrible, Sasha the only good thing is he has a $5.5 million expiring. The Raptors would get hosed on that deal.


Jacks value in the trade market will never be higher simple because he has the illusion of being a starting point guard. He replaced TJ in Indiana and Jose in Toronto. Some GM will be deluded enough to believe he is a quality PG rather than a back-up.
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:41 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Jack would be fantastic in the triangle. He isnt a PG who needs to control the offence and have the ball in his hands a lot of the time, he knocks down open 3s and midrange J's, and he can drive the lane if closed out on. He'd be a great replacement and huge upgrade to Fisher.

And speaking of the deal itself, itd be very solid value if Bynum hadnt had injuries in the past, but since he does and that likely to continue its going to be the Gasol trade all over again the way Bynum is going...minus getting a very capable healthy center back which MEM got.

That and I dont see Bynum being happy in TO.
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Jack would be fantastic in the triangle. He isnt a PG who needs to control the offence and have the ball in his hands a lot of the time, he knocks down open 3s and midrange J's, and he can drive the lane if closed out on. He'd be a great replacement and huge upgrade to Fisher.

And speaking of the deal itself, itd be very solid value if Bynum hadnt had injuries in the past, but since he does and that likely to continue its going to be the Gasol trade all over again the way Bynum is going...minus getting a very capable healthy center back which MEM got.

That and I dont see Bynum being happy in TO.
How do you match up 19.2 in salaries from LAL and you can't count Powells since he is useless and a free agent with 22 to 23 million in salaries with Jack and Bosh. Bynum isn't healthy and likely never will a 60 game a season player.
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How do you match up ... salaries?
You don't have to?
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:32 AM   #139 (permalink)
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Here is the answer to everything.


Seems complex but it isnt.


Toronto trades to NYK-Jose
Out: Curry

NY gets a pg, sheds some salary to add their max players.


To Philly-Curry, Beli, #6
Out: Brand, #2

Philly adds some youth, Keeps a lotto pick for good measure, sheds ALOT of salary, gets the #6 pick to either nab a winger(aminu) or a center(cousins) as one of the 2 should fall.


GS trades:
Ellis, #6, Randolph, Buike or Morrow

Gets:
#2, Banks, Evans, Amir(S&T), #13

GS gets a great pairing for Curry in Turner. Make other trades to sure up the front court a bit more using Buike/Morrow./Expirings. Amir adds rebounding and defense up front.


Toronto ends up with: Ellis, Brand, Randolph, Buike or Morrow

Toronto adds a 20ppg player at the pg spot, Brands adds very solid depth up front. Randolph has loads of potential in the pf spot. Buike/Morrow is young and has potential for the wing spot. MLE on depth


Ellis/Jack
Demar/Weems
Turk/Buike or Morrow
Bosh/Randolph
Bargs/Brand
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Here is the answer to everything.


Seems complex but it isnt.


Toronto trades to NYK-Jose
Out: Curry

NY gets a pg, sheds some salary to add their max players.


To Philly-Curry, Beli, #6
Out: Brand, #2

Philly adds some youth, Keeps a lotto pick for good measure, sheds ALOT of salary, gets the #6 pick to either nab a winger(aminu) or a center(cousins) as one of the 2 should fall.


GS trades:
Ellis, #6, Randolph, Buike or Morrow

Gets:
#2, Banks, Evans, Amir(S&T), #13

GS gets a great pairing for Curry in Turner. Make other trades to sure up the front court a bit more using Buike/Morrow./Expirings. Amir adds rebounding and defense up front.


Toronto ends up with: Ellis, Brand, Randolph, Buike or Morrow

Toronto adds a 20ppg player at the pg spot, Brands adds very solid depth up front. Randolph has loads of potential in the pf spot. Buike/Morrow is young and has potential for the wing spot. MLE on depth


Ellis/Jack
Demar/Weems
Turk/Buike or Morrow
Bosh/Randolph
Bargs/Brand
I think my scenario is better:

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To Toronto:

17th pick
Bynum
Hinrich
Deng
Vujacic(exp)

To the Lakers:

Calderon
T. Gibson
Evans(exp)
Hedo
Jack
13th pick

To the Bulls:

Banks
Walton
Bosh


Raptors:

Hinrich/17th pick or FA
DeRozan/Beli
Deng/Weems/Vujacic(exp)
AB/Amir
Bynum/17th pick or FA

LA:

Jose/Jack
Kobe/13th pick or FA
Artest/Hedo
Odom/Gibson
Gasol/Evans(exp)/13th pick or FA

Bulls:

Rose/Banks(exp)
R. Murray/FA
Walton/D. Brown/FA
Bosh/FA
Noah/Miller

It works for all 3!!!! At least I think it does
Matbe swapping Hedo back to us & giving LA Deng might work even better?

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