The Official RF Trade Proposal Thread - Page 292
Old 06-23-2014, 12:36 AM   #5821 (permalink)
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Next summer we'd have 30mil in capspace once Boozer comes off the books. How does that free agentville sound? Boozer is a means to an end, and he helps in the short term, adding #16 is a big bonus. Nothing much will get added this summer at this point, and with 2015 being the time we're looking to make bigger moves this helps now and then.

Doesn't matter because there is absolutely no way this would happen anyway.
I could see it if the Bulls need the space for Melo and if the Knicks hold fast to not wanting Boozer. Really just musing but with 12 mil in non guaranteed contracts the Raps could have a chance to add someone...maybe Asik if Houston needs space.

Just looking at what's our there really, there's possibilities I think.

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Old 06-23-2014, 12:41 AM   #5822 (permalink)
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I'd do that in a heartbeat tbh. I serviceable PF with a massive expiring contract plus a #16 pick? We could probably then move #16/#20 and move in the #10-12 range.

Could you imagine

Boozer, Lavine

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TH, Salmons, Buycks, stone


I wish

Lowry - Vasquez - Nando
Derozan - Lavine - Fields
Ross - Vet - Novak
Boozer - Amir - Patterson
JoVal - Vet - Hayes
I would do that deal, although might need to add another salary (Novak?). Boozer would give the Raps additional toughness and scoring from the PF spot. I could see the Bulls asking for Amir, though, if they were to give up a draft pick.

BTW, even if the Raps kept Amir, there probably isn't a need to acquire a vet centre since Amir could backup at that spot. Plus with PP, there would be a glut of PFs on the roster.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:43 AM   #5823 (permalink)
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I would do that deal, although might need to add another salary (Novak?). Boozer would give the Raps additional toughness and scoring from the PF spot. I could see the Bulls asking for Amir, though, if they were to give up a draft pick.

BTW, even if the Raps kept Amir, there probably isn't a need to acquire a vet centre since Amir could backup at that spot. Plus with PP, there would be a glut of PFs on the roster.
3 PF's with one being here short term is a glut? lol
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:47 AM   #5824 (permalink)
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I would do that deal, although might need to add another salary (Novak?). Boozer would give the Raps additional toughness and scoring from the PF spot. I could see the Bulls asking for Amir, though, if they were to give up a draft pick.

BTW, even if the Raps kept Amir, there probably isn't a need to acquire a vet centre since Amir could backup at that spot. Plus with PP, there would be a glut of PFs on the roster.
The pick would be the sweetener for the Raps to do the deal and honestly, the Bulls would have to move both picks in all likelihood to sign Melo outright if they go that way. There's a chance they use the other pick for Afflalo so to get both Melo and Afflalo it's going to be tough - esp if NY holds to not wanting Boozer, unless it's a push for more picks or something.
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3 PF's with one being here short term is a glut? lol
I agree, wouldn't be a glut really if the team plays small and use one or two as a center.
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3 PF's with one being here short term is a glut? lol
It's a glut for next season in your scenario where you have 3 PFs and also propose acquiring a vet centre. How do you find PT for all three? Moving Amir to the centre spot would solve that problem (which is what I had said if you read the entire friggin' post).
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It's a glut for next season in your scenario where you have 3 PFs and also propose acquiring a vet centre. How do you find PT for all three? Moving Amir to the centre spot would solve that problem (which is what I had said if you read the entire friggin' post).
I read your post and I'd be fine with Amir playing both, but I also have a major fear about his paper ankles and overall health playing Center tbh. If anything I'd still sign the veteran Center (preferably a 7 footer) and try to unload Hayes.
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:09 AM   #5828 (permalink)
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I read your post and I'd be fine with Amir playing both, but I also have a major fear about his paper ankles and overall health playing Center tbh. If anything I'd still sign the veteran Center (preferably a 7 footer) and try to unload Hayes.
With a reduced workload, I think he should be o.k. That said, I agree with finding a better option than Haynes as a backup centre (#2 or #3 on the depth chart).

Alternatively, I wouldn't mind dealing Amir in the right package or trading him to create space to sign a backup or even starting-calibre SF (Deng?). I still have doubts that Ross will develop into an effective starter. I think his future is that as a very good 6th man.
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:23 AM   #5829 (permalink)
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Another idea. If the Cavs do draft Parker, they'll have a glut of PFs. What about Amir (who could play a bit of centre for them and give the Cavs some leadership) for Tristan Thompson?
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Another idea. If the Cavs do draft Parker, they'll have a glut of PFs. What about Amir (who could play a bit of centre for them and give the Cavs some leadership) for Tristan Thompson?
I like TT though the Raps do give up a lot in terms leadership and defence themselves trading the 27 yr old Amir - for some reason he felt older lol

I didn't include Amir earlier in the total non guaranteed contracts because of the above point but if one did that's 19 mil that could be used. Still, I think Amir is too important to the team.

All these teams jockeying for cap space I'm hoping there's a place for the Raps to squeeze in and take advantage to add a pc - whether a player or draft pick.

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Bulls can amnesty Boozer, why would they give up pick?
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Bulls can amnesty Boozer, why would they give up pick?
That 16 million is still money they have to pay. And the Bulls ownership is known for money saving moves.
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BTW this is exactly the sort of move we should be making. I would also do Perkins + 29 for Salmons.
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Old 06-24-2014, 01:10 PM   #5834 (permalink)
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Ok I'm just gonna have some fun right now.

Trade DeRozan, Amir, Ross for Love

Trade Hayes and Fields with our second round picks to 76ers for James Anderson

Buyout Salmons.

Renounce all the rights/cap holds to any free agents we have.

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PG:Lebron
SG: James Young/other draft pick
SF:Melo
PF:Love
C: JV


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Old 06-24-2014, 01:33 PM   #5835 (permalink)
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Ummm, wouldn't JV be the centre?

And who is James Young?

I don't think having James and Melo on the same team would work along with Love. Better to re-sign Lowry to play the point and have James at SF.
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Ummm, wouldn't JV be the centre?

And who is James Young?

I don't think having James and Melo on the same team would work along with Love. Better to re-sign Lowry to play the point and have James at SF.
You realize he was kidding right?
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Old 06-24-2014, 02:59 PM   #5837 (permalink)
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Wow I need to get my head in the game, forgot about JV. And yeah Jeff's right, I was just having a little fun to see if I could get those guys on the roster.
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I know, I was playing along, albeit too seriously. Or trade for Chris Paul.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:28 AM   #5839 (permalink)
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what if we trade Dunleavy into the rudy gay trade exception. tried it on the trade machine and it works: ttp://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pu28jvv

the bulls shave >$3MM, if they waive Boozer, they have a lot of money to go to free agency for Melo. Dunleavy would actually help us but my target is the 19th pick. maybe they send us MD+19 we send them a trade exception+37+59
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:43 PM   #5840 (permalink)
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I would do it. Bulls actually clear something like 4M, since the first rounder has a cap hold and the seconds don't.
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