The Official RF Trade Proposal Thread - Page 287
Old 03-11-2014, 12:57 AM   #5721 (permalink)
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Hayes does not have trade value and Fields has negative value. 2 2nds are worth very little.
Disagree, he will be expiring next season and there will always going to be teams looking to get under the cap. He might not have big trade value, but it's certainly not going to be negative
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:09 AM   #5722 (permalink)
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Expirings have less value these days. Unless we deal LF and/or Hayes for guys with much longer contracts and 1st rounders (which MU won't to save cap flexibility for next summer) then there isn't much out there if anything for them.
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:12 AM   #5723 (permalink)
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Expirings have less value these days. Unless we deal LF and/or Hayes for guys with much longer contracts and 1st rounders (which MU won't to save cap flexibility for next summer) then there isn't much out there if anything for them.
Point is that Fields doesn't have a negative trade value, I don't want to get into discussion what could we get for him, but I'm pretty sure we are not going to have to throw in picks to unload him.
There are so many things that can happen between the summer and 2015 trade deadline. To say what will or won't happen is premature at this point, It is not given that Masai will try to sign max contract (or close to it) in 2015 FA, for all we know he will be more than happy to take on a bad contract+pick(s) in exchange for Fields+(maybe)sweetener
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Old 03-23-2014, 12:07 PM   #5724 (permalink)
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some tough on some idéa to improve our roster :

1. Draft Night :
trade our 1st 2014 + 1st NYK 2016 + Novak to philly for the pelicans 1st pick 2014 + wroten.
Draft Kyle Anderson, a smart point SF with this pick.

with our 2nd sac : draft Hanlan (pg)
With our 2nd OKC : draft Jordan Bachynski (Center)

2.
Re-sign KL to a 4yr/40M

3.
Pickup GV option
Pickup PP option
(hope they don't sign an offer to keep them one more year)

4.
cut Buycks + Stone + salmons

5.
Re-sign De Colo to a two year 3M contract.

KL/GV/Hanlan
DD/Wroten/De Colo
TR/Anderson/Fields
AJ/PP/TH
JV/Bachynski/Hayes

we bet on the futur with some new talents.

next summer we will have expirings : GV, Fields, AJ, PP, Hayes, TH = 33M off the book
and still our best talents in the house : KL/DD/TR/JV + Wroten + De Colo + 3 young talent.

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Old 04-05-2014, 07:35 PM   #5725 (permalink)
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1.
draft the best player available.

2.
Boston get Fields + Hayes + 2nd OKC 2014 + 2nd SAC 2014
toronto get Green + Anthony.

3.
LAL get Novak
TOR get Sacre + tpe

4.
keep salmons, PP and vasquez and re-sign Lowry and de colo
get Carter for the MLE

Lowry/Vasquez/De Colo
DD/Carter/De Colo
Ross/Green/Salmons
AJ/PP/TH
JV/Sacre/Anthony

+ our 1st pick 2014
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:22 PM   #5726 (permalink)
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VC for the full MLE - hell no.

I don't see MU dealing for green because of Green's player option for 2016. MU will probably look to keep as much space for the summer of 2015 as possible.

Lakers don't need Novak's salary.

Salmons - are you supposing cutting him and then resigning him. So paying him his ~1million guaranteed for next season, getting rid of him and looking to resign him? or are you looking to keep him straight up? The dude's greatest value is as a trade piece.

Keeping Lowry - ok I think we all know that's necessary.

GV and PP - depends for how much really. De Colo isn't as necessary but for cheap then sure.
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:25 PM   #5727 (permalink)
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GV and PP - depends for how much really. De Colo isn't as necessary but for cheap then sure.
GV- 3.5 QO

De Colo- 1.4Mil TO


I want both here behind Lowry
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:26 PM   #5728 (permalink)
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GV- 3.5 QO

De Colo- 1.4Mil TO


I want both here behind Lowry
If GV doesn't look to seek more than sure the QO is fine. Yeah that's decent for Nando.
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:04 AM   #5729 (permalink)
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VC for the full MLE - hell no.

I don't see MU dealing for green because of Green's player option for 2016. MU will probably look to keep as much space for the summer of 2015 as possible.

Lakers don't need Novak's salary.

Salmons - are you supposing cutting him and then resigning him. So paying him his ~1million guaranteed for next season, getting rid of him and looking to resign him? or are you looking to keep him straight up? The dude's greatest value is as a trade piece.

Keeping Lowry - ok I think we all know that's necessary.

GV and PP - depends for how much really. De Colo isn't as necessary but for cheap then sure.
sorry it wasn't MLE but the bi-annual exception.
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Old 04-06-2014, 01:44 PM   #5730 (permalink)
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GV- 3.5 QO

De Colo- 1.4Mil TO


I want both here behind Lowry
No team option for De Colo. He's a RFA as well.
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:02 PM   #5731 (permalink)
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GV- 3.5 QO

De Colo- 1.4Mil TO


I want both here behind Lowry
I agree with all 3 at the point position we would be set for the next 3-4 years
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I agree with all 3 at the point position we would be set for the next 3-4 years
We then drop Buycks/Stone and add a backup SF/C and I'd be fine going into next season. 2015 is the summer we like start looking to make a bigger jump.
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Old 04-06-2014, 03:04 PM   #5733 (permalink)
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Drop Buyks and Stone, try to trade Novak, Salmons and Hayes
Make offer to Greg Smith, don't think Houston is going to match it. imo he is very interesting prospect he is only 23, but after injury his price should be very affordable. his career average per 36 is 13.3pts 10.4 reb .635ts %,
WS/48 .168, DRTG 105, ORTG 125

Also see if we could sign one of Jordan Hill, Kaman, O'Neil, Okafor to a backup C
and someone like: CJ Miles, Marion, Carter, Battier, Sefolosha, Diaw (yea he is more a PF)

We would still keep money for 2015 FA while upgrading the bench

Lowry, Vasquez,
DD, DeColo
Ross, Diaw, Fields
Amir, Paterson, Hans brother
JV, Kaman, Smith

+ whoever we draft and trade for


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Old 04-27-2014, 04:35 PM   #5734 (permalink)
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would you do a trade like this before the draft to get Wiggins ?

LAL : DD + Novak
Tor get 1st LAL 2014 + Nash + Sacre



Nash will retire or be a Player/Coach for Casey.
whatever we get a top noch pick and a huge flexibility going in to summer 2015

Lowry/Vasquez/Nash
Ross/VC
Wiggins/Salmons/Fields
Amir/PP/TH
JV/Sacre/Hayes
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would you do a trade like this before the draft to get Wiggins ?

LAL : DD + Novak
Tor get 1st LAL 2014 + Nash + Sacre



Nash will retire or be a Player/Coach for Casey.
whatever we get a top noch pick and a huge flexibility going in to summer 2015

Lowry/Vasquez/Nash
Ross/VC
Wiggins/Salmons/Fields
Amir/PP/TH
JV/Sacre/Hayes
If LAL maintain their 6th pick I highly doubt they get Wiggins that low.
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would you do a trade like this before the draft to get Wiggins ?

LAL : DD + Novak
Tor get 1st LAL 2014 + Nash + Sacre



Nash will retire or be a Player/Coach for Casey.
whatever we get a top noch pick and a huge flexibility going in to summer 2015

Lowry/Vasquez/Nash
Ross/VC
Wiggins/Salmons/Fields
Amir/PP/TH
JV/Sacre/Hayes
would not do that, imo we can could get more for DD at this point
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would not do that, imo we can could get more for DD at this point
IF Wiggins is available with their pick, you do it.

He won't be, so you don't.
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IF Wiggins is available with their pick, you do it.

He won't be, so you don't.
unless they get top 2 pick (most likely top 1) he is not going to be available. I doubt they will so yea, no.
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1. draft night
Cleveland get salmons + th + 2nd rd sac + okc 2014 + right to swap 2015 1st
tor get Varejao

2. summer
Dallas get Tpe + 2nd NYK 2017
toronto get VC.


if we keep lowry + GV + PP

Lowry/GV/De Colo
DD/VC/Fields
Ross/1st pick/MLE
Amir/PP/Novak
JV/Varejao/Hayes

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Old 05-07-2014, 09:20 AM   #5740 (permalink)
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little trades on draft night to get all our need for cheap :


1.
PHX get 1st tor 2014 + Novak
tor get G. Green

2.
Orlando get 2nd rd Sac 2014 + stone
tor get O'quinn

2. 10th july
Dallas get tpe (gay) + 2nd rd NYK 2017
tor get Carter (S&T : 12M/3yrs - unguaranted the second and third yr)

3. sign James Johnson with the min

KL/GV/De Colo
DD/VC/Fields
Green/TR/JJ
AJ/PP/TH
JV/O'quinn/Hayes

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