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Old 02-04-2014, 06:18 PM   #5641 (permalink)
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4 1st round pick for Rondo and Olynyk? I don't think this 1st many picks goes up in any trade for Rondo..
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:34 PM   #5642 (permalink)
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OKC get Rondo + TH + stone
Boston get Perkins + Sefolosha + Vasquez + Money (tor) + 1st Dallas 2014 + 1st OKC 2014 + 1st Tor 2014 TOR + 1st NYK 2016
TOR get Jackson + Bogans + Olynyk + 2nd rd OKC 2015

OKC add an elite point guard defender-passer.

Boston get picks, shed some money, get two expirings. they continue to rebuild.
they will have 6 1st pick in the 2014 draft, so they can rebuid.

TOR get a vet wing, a young pg and a young center.
as we know we will not go into june, so we should invest in talent.
we bet on this young talent instead of "probable" talent.

Lowry/Jackson/Buycks
DD/Bogans/Fields
TR/Salmons/Novak
PP/Olynyk/Daye
JV/AJ/Hayes
So we take on the bad contract of Bogans handcuffing our flexibility for next 3 years, give up 2 first rounders and Money, to get Jackson and Olynyk (who isn't very good imo) No thanks..
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So we take on the bad contract of Bogans handcuffing our flexibility for next 3 years, give up 2 first rounders and Money, to get Jackson and Olynyk (who isn't very good imo) No thanks..
Yeah but he's Canadian
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None of the 2014 picks from this trade would be lottery, so i tough it would be fair for them. but we can substract the 1st NYK 2016. (maybe too much)

the fact he is canadian has nothing to do with the trade.(I'm french not canadian) I just think that guy will be a great pf/c in the futur. at least one good backup behind JV and whom ever will start at PF for us in the futur. You don't find that many energy big man, whom can block, pass, shoot the ball and is a 7footer. he need to bulk up, but i really think he could become a noah-lite.
i think it fair to give vasuqez for him.

Jackson is doing great as a starter for OKC so, i really think he can be an asset for us. he has a 2 yrs contract, still on rookie scale. if Lowry don't stay here we would at least have one pg on the roster for next year.
so TH + 1st Tor 2014 for Jackson is great.

Bogans give us another vet shooter-defender coming off the bench.

FYI, capspace is interresting when you have player to sign. i would rather resign the ones we have and are good (Lowry + PP).

Lowry/Jackson
DD/Bogans/2nd rd 14
TR/Salmons/2nd rd 14
AJ/PP/Novak
JV/Olynyk/Hayes

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Old 02-04-2014, 09:53 PM   #5645 (permalink)
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So we take on the bad contract of Bogans handcuffing our flexibility for next 3 years, give up 2 first rounders and Money, to get Jackson and Olynyk (who isn't very good imo) No thanks..
Bogans will not handcuff us as his contract is non-guaranteed next year with a 1 mil buyout option. Still the trade makes absolutely no sense. Why the hell would OKC trade for Rondo when they already have Westbrook? Unless you are flipping Rondo or trading Westbrook for a starting C, the trade to me makes no sense. Personally, I like what we get in the trade, but it needs some tweaking for OKC's part.

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I think we should look in to trading for someone like Kaman, Koufos, J. O'neal and than go after Miller. Combination of Vasquez TH/CH + 2nd should be enough to get backup PG and C
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I think we should look in to trading for someone like Kaman, Koufos, J. O'neal and than go after Miller. Combination of Vasquez TH/CH + 2nd should be enough to get backup PG and C
We could definitely get Kaman because the Lakers aren't going anywhere this season and are going to be tanking hard. Plus, they are hardly playing the guy.
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:46 PM   #5648 (permalink)
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would you consider this :
1.
Indy get Ross + Hayes + 1st TOR 2014 + 2nd rd Tor
Tor get Stephenson + Mahimmi

We offer stephenson an extension.

2.
MIL get Vasquez + Novak
TOR get Ridnour + Neal



Lowry/Ridnour
DD/Neal
Lance/Salmons
AJ/PP/TH
JV/Mahimmi

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Old 02-06-2014, 08:48 PM   #5649 (permalink)
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would you consider this :
1.
Indy get Ross + Hayes + 1st TOR 2014 + 2nd rd Tor
Tor get Stephenson + Mahimmi

We offer stephenson an extension.

2.
MIL get Vasquez + Novak
TOR get Ridnour + Neal



Lowry/Ridnour
DD/Neal
Lance/Salmons
AJ/PP/TH
JV/Mahimmi
Personally the only guys I want to get rid of on our team are Fields, Hayes, Daye, Stone and Buycks. I wouldn't give up on Vasquez yet, but he definitely needs to pick up his play and be more consistent. I also wouldn't move Novak because he is a great 3 point shooter that knows his role, and is a team player. Plus, finding good consistent 3 point shooters is very hard to come by in this league, so I think Novak is a god asset for this team. He isn't get paid a ton of money, so it's not like he is hurting us financial.

Now to the trades, I like both Ross and Stephenson, but I'd prefer Ross as he has a major 3 point advantage over Stephenson.

I would love to move Hayes, and I mention in another thread about going after Mahinmi. I purposed:

Hayes + 2nd rounder for Mahinmi.

We get our back up C with Mahinmi, and his salary of 4mil per year until the end of the 2015/2016 season. Pacers get Hayes expiring for next season and get cap relief early then they would have, if they keep Mahinmi.

I would pass completely on the 2nd trade, but if Vasquez doesn't pick it up soon then you could just look at a straight PG swap of Vasquez for Ridnour.

If we could start next season with a this roster I'd be happy:

Lowry/Vasquez/Player in 2nd round of this year's draft or an old vet
DD/Ross/Fields (Though I hope Fields expiring contract would be moved by then)
Deng/Salmons or SF 1st round pick/Novak (Salmons only on a smaller salary not his 7 mil option)
PP/Amir/TH
JV/Mahinmi/Combo of PP/Amir/TH

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Old 02-07-2014, 03:01 PM   #5650 (permalink)
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Philly get Hayes + Novak + Buycks + 1st NYK 2016 + 2nd rd NYK 2017 + 2nd rd sac 2014
toronto get Hawes + Wroten + thompson


Lowry/Vasquez
DD/Wroten/Fields
TR/Salmons/Thompson
AJ/PP/TH
JV/Hawes

we get flexibility and young talents w/o giving up to much.
Hawes will help us for our playoffs run, and wroten give us a willing passer and solid 3pt shooter as a combo guard.

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Old 02-07-2014, 04:01 PM   #5651 (permalink)
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how's this for a lowry idea--

lowry for rubio

they're the core. more would have to be added like daye and shved.

mini is one of the teams i can see rolling the dice. lowry would help them a lot, in a lot of ways. rubio (and shved) have been not nearly as impressive this season. they're both guys i'd take a chance on.

thoughts?

--edit--

just re-read the above trade that had novak going out. and he fits in a lowry-rubio deal as well. might be of more interest to the coaching staff and he's certainly more proven than daye, even if he carries a bigger pricetag. just wanted to throw that in there

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Rubio sucks..
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Small proposal

Lakers get: Hansbrough
Raptors get: Kaman

Raps need some size and Kaman(who's in the Lakers doghouse)provides that at 7'0. He's also an expiring contract.

JV/CK at C
AJ/PP/CH at PF


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Small proposal

Lakers get: Hansbrough
Raptors get: Kaman

Raps need some size and Kaman(who's in the Lakers doghouse)provides that at 7'0. He's also an expiring contract.

JV/CK at C
AJ/PP/CH at PF


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I wouldn't mind getting Kaman, but I wouldn't move Psycho T for him as Kaman is an upcoming free agent. I'd just wait and sign the guy.
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1.
in 2 parts :
Cle get Fields + Stone + 1st NYK 2016 /// Okafor + 2 * futur 1st rd PHX
PHX get Waiters /// Deng
Tor get Green + Bennett

Cleveland shed money and get picks back. they also shed 3 players unhappy.
PHX get a star SF and a young sg
We get two youngster. Bennett need a change of scenarii, especially a solid development coach.

2.
Mil get Hayes + 2nd rd NTK 2017
Tor get Pachulia


Lowry/Vasquez/Buycks
DD/TR/Salmons
Green/Salmons/Bennett
AJ/PP/TH/Novak
JV/Pachulia
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in 2 parts :
Cle get Fields + Stone + 1st NYK 2016 /// Okafor + 2 * futur 1st rd PHX
PHX get Waiters /// Deng
Tor get Green + Bennett

Cleveland shed money and get picks back. they also shed 3 players unhappy.
PHX get a star SF and a young sg
We get two youngster. Bennett need a change of scenarii, especially a solid development coach.

2.
Mil get Hayes + 2nd rd NTK 2017
Tor get Pachulia


Lowry/Vasquez/Buycks
DD/TR/Salmons
Green/Salmons/Bennett
AJ/PP/TH/Novak
JV/Pachulia
I mentioned that second trade on a different thread. Would definitely do it even if we had to give up 2 2nd rounders with Hayes
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i realy wonder if cleveland wouldn't be a good partner right now to trade with :

J.Jack for vasquez + tpe
Bennett for Fields
Waiters for Novak

add to cleveland 2016 1st NYK + 2nd rd OKC 2014 + 2nd rd NYK 2017

and make the trade hayes for pachulia

KL/JJ
DD/Waiters
TR/Salmons/Bennett
AJ/PP/TH
JV/Pachulia
+ 1st 2014 + 2nd SAC 2014

resign KL and PP.

run with this next season. at least we will have some trade piece for next season if need be.
that roster would be a scoring one, with a solid scoring bench.
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Old 02-08-2014, 05:19 PM   #5659 (permalink)
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I can't see them giving up on Bennett so easily.
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Old 02-08-2014, 05:23 PM   #5660 (permalink)
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I think it'd be easier to get TT considering the Cavs control AB's contract for longer. Also - what's the point of trading for AB with a glut of bigs. AB is not a full time SF. Maybe like max 5 mins/game at SF if he's playing 30-36 mpg.
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