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Old 01-18-2014, 02:33 PM   #5581 (permalink)
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Toronto: Caron Butler (8mil exp)

Milwaukee: Novak or Fields, 2nd


Depth SF for a playoff run, gives us experience off the bench while expiring in the summer. He won't be in Milwaukee past this season (currently not getting minutes) and could see him getting dealt by the deadline since he's an expirng. Short term vet + capspace for the summer to me is a no brainer. I think Milwaukee can probably get a better deal though.
Novak straight up for Butler cannot be done.

LF for Butler would be pretty bad for Milwaukee. Even with the 2nd rounder included.
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:49 PM   #5583 (permalink)
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Milwaukee take on LF's salary next season and Novak's for the next 2 seasons. Miroslav has a relatively low contract. The only way Milwaukee accepts that is with the inclusion of a first rounder - either the Raps' first rounder this year - or that future NYK 2016 pick. And they would probably want an additional 2nd rounder as well.
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:51 PM   #5584 (permalink)
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I don't see MU sacrificing 1st rounders to rid the team of Hayes, LF or Novak. I think Novak could be dealt for a player expiring in 2015 though. Capspace it seems will be maintained for the summer of 2015, at least for the time being.
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:10 AM   #5586 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2014, 11:49 AM   #5587 (permalink)
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Utah get Landry + Novak + 1st NYK 2016
tor get Jefferson + Gobert

Lowry/Vasquez/Buycks
DD/Salmons/Stone
TR/Jefferson/Daye
AJ/PP/TH
JV/Hayes/Gobert
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:58 PM   #5588 (permalink)
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Utah get Landry + Novak + 1st NYK 2016
tor get Jefferson + Gobert

Lowry/Vasquez/Buycks
DD/Salmons/Stone
TR/Jefferson/Daye
AJ/PP/TH
JV/Hayes/Gobert
They wouldn't do it. Even if it was just Landry+Novak for an expiring (Jefferson), the 2016 1st is likely not enough. And this deal asks for them to give a prospect too.
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Old 01-19-2014, 01:52 PM   #5589 (permalink)
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maybe instead the 1st nyk 2016, we could bive them our 1st 2014. i put that one around 18-21th.
and even add a 2nd rd.
what we buy is capspace, so MU can continue to rebuild correctly and be in position to compete for a titlte in the next 5 seasons. (isn't it the goal ?)

Utah get Landry + Novak + 1st TOR 2014 + 2nd rd OKC 2014
tor get Jefferson + Gobert

Lowry/Vasquez/Buycks
DD/Salmons/Stone
TR/Jefferson/Daye
AJ/PP/TH
JV/Hayes/Gobert

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Old 01-20-2014, 11:28 AM   #5590 (permalink)
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after feb 9th :

ORL get Fields + Novak + TH + Vasquez + 1st NYK 2016 + 1st TOR 2014 + 2nd rd OKC 2014 + right to swap our 2016 1st.
TOR get Nelson + Afflalo + O'Quinn

orlando grab 2 first rd. they will have 3 1st in 2014 and 3 in 2016. they can build a young core with 7 first pick in the next 3 years.

we get another 20ppg wing player, solid defender and one of the best 3pt shooter. nelson give us a solid backup pg, and O'quinn is a physical pf/c.

Lowry/Nelson
Afflalo/TR
DD/Salmons
AJ/PP/O'Quinn
JV/Hayes

i think that give us the mean to push in the playoffs.
and we will have flexibility. lowry expiring, and nelson + salmons 1M garanted next season.
and TR as our 6th man, would be great as he developp.

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Old 01-20-2014, 01:49 PM   #5591 (permalink)
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after feb 9th :

ORL get Fields + Novak + TH + Vasquez + 1st NYK 2016 + 1st TOR 2014 + 2nd rd OKC 2014 + right to swap our 2016 1st.
TOR get Nelson + Afflalo + O'Quinn

orlando grab 2 first rd. they will have 3 1st in 2014 and 3 in 2016. they can build a young core with 7 first pick in the next 3 years.

we get another 20ppg wing player, solid defender and one of the best 3pt shooter. nelson give us a solid backup pg, and O'quinn is a physical pf/c.

Lowry/Nelson
Afflalo/TR
DD/Salmons
AJ/PP/O'Quinn
JV/Hayes

i think that give us the mean to push in the playoffs.
and we will have flexibility. lowry expiring, and nelson + salmons 1M garanted next season.
and TR as our 6th man, would be great as he developp.
Interesting. I think Orlando could do better for Afflalo who's playing like the 2nd best SG in the East.

Salmons, 2014 TOR first round pick, 2016 NYK first round pick for Afflalo
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Are you guys seriously trying to recreate 2006 when we traded a 1st for JO? Afflalo is a nice player, but seriously, 2 first round picks? Really? The NYK pick could end up being a top 10 pick in the draft.

You dont give away 1st round picks for veteran players when you're a young team who needs an influx of talent, and flexibility to improve their roster. That's GMing 101.
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Are you guys seriously trying to recreate 2006 when we traded a 1st for JO?
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:33 PM   #5594 (permalink)
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Are you guys seriously trying to recreate 2006 when we traded a 1st for JO? Afflalo is a nice player, but seriously, 2 first round picks? Really? The NYK pick could end up being a top 10 pick in the draft.

You dont give away 1st round picks for veteran players when you're a young team who needs an influx of talent, and flexibility to improve their roster. That's GMing 101.
Highly doubt NY pick will be good, because Denver can swap their own pick with NY (Nuggets Masai fucked it up for Raptors Masai ) Unless you think both Denver and New York will be bad.
But completely agree with the rest, we need to trade for picks not other way around.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:49 PM   #5595 (permalink)
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Highly doubt NY pick will be good, because Denver can swap their own pick with NY (Nuggets Masai fucked it up for Raptors Masai ) Unless you think both Denver and New York will be bad.
But completely agree with the rest, we need to trade for picks not other way around.
Ah yes, I didn't know this. It's possible DEN could suck too given their current mismashed roster, and they're in the West. If they don't acquire a really good starting big man in the next 2 years to pair with Lawson, anything is possible. They're a treadmill team in the West with the possibility of being a tank team in the next few years if they cant trade a bunch of their pieces for a really good player or two.
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Old 01-27-2014, 02:18 AM   #5596 (permalink)
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I wish there was some way the Raps could get rid of Fields+Novak and even Hayes. Chuck has played decent in relief but not for his price tag. TH can give similar production at a much cheaper cost.
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Old 01-27-2014, 02:32 AM   #5597 (permalink)
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I wish there was some way the Raps could get rid of Fields+Novak and even Hayes. Chuck has played decent in relief but not for his price tag. TH can give similar production at a much cheaper cost.
how bout a doover with Rudee and the gang....you should be pleased with the trade so far....
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Raps get: Caron Butler
Bucks get: Omer Asik,Landry Fields
Rockets get: Larry Sanders,Gary Neal

Throw in fillers or 2nd rounders if needed,but the deal works as is.
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Raps get: Caron Butler
Bucks get: Omer Asik,Landry Fields
Rockets get: Larry Sanders,Gary Neal

Throw in fillers or 2nd rounders if needed,but the deal works as is.
I don't like Sanders to the Rockets or Asik to Milwaukee. But even if those teams wanted to do something like that, why would they involve Landry Fields in the deal.

Bucks get: Asik, Rockets get: Sanders, Neal. This one works as well, so what's the point in Landry Fields in there.
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1.
NOP get Novak + 2nd rd sac 2014 +2nd rd okc 2014
TOR get Amnu + O'Quinn + RIvers
ORL get TH

2.
cut buycks and Daye ad sign a 10day contract to jason collins for our 3rd center.

Lowry/Vasquez/RIvers
DD/Salmons/Stone
TR/Aminu/Fields
Amir/PP/O'Quinn
JV/Hayes/Collins

we would have more flexibility, and we add three young talents as backup.
rivers is still an enigma, but i really think he can become a solid combo-xfactor in a good team coming off the bench. need some PT. aminu is a solid sf defender and 3pt shooter, exactly the kind of wing we need. O'quinn is a high energy big men whom can shoot and defend. at 6"10 250 je also is a big presence in the paint.

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