The Official RF Trade Proposal Thread - Page 261
Old 12-05-2013, 02:34 PM   #5201 (permalink)
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NBA Trade Machine - ESPN


Chicago:
Derozan
Lowry


Toronto:
Deng
Gordon

Charlotte:
Gay


+ whatever extras and/or picks


Gives us 27Mil in expirings
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:00 PM   #5202 (permalink)
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I think chicago and charlotte both get too much in that deal.

Gordon < Rudy but has one less year
DeRozan himself is worth more than expiring Deng, let alone throwing in Lowry who has a ton of value to the Bulls.
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:02 PM   #5203 (permalink)
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I think chicago and charlotte both get too much in that deal.

Gordon < Rudy but has one less year
DeRozan himself is worth more than expiring Deng, let alone throwing in Lowry who has a ton of value to the Bulls.
like i said add fillers + picks

Maybe we'd get teague and Charlotte's pick (top 3-5 protected?)
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:09 PM   #5204 (permalink)
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This deal might even be plausible. Deng is important to the Bulls, but DeRozan could be a good complementary scorer to Rose when he returns, and if anything can make him a positive defensive player it is playing next to Butler in a Thibodeau system. And Lowry gives them a) a cushion for Rose and potentially b) re-signing to back him up, and let them limit his minutes a bit in future if they are concerned about injuries (and it seems like they should be).

Charlotte gets Gay for an expiring. Probably about right.

Raptors need to look for picks in this deal though, since so many assets are going out at once. The DET pick from CHA would be great. CHA's own 2nd rounder. If we can't get the DET pick, then POR's pick and another 2nd rounder from CHA. The Bulls are actually coming out ahead here as well trading an expiring for DeRozan, so maybe they send out their pick as well - I doubt they give up CHA's pick. Most of those picks are top 8 or 12 protected this year, but that's fine with me.

Getting a late-lotto or mid-round 1st (CHA's or DET's or CHI's), or getting a low 1st (POR) and a couple 2nd's (CHA and CHI) would be enough grease for me.
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:37 PM   #5205 (permalink)
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Rudy Gay + Tyler Hansbrough for Amare Stoudemire + Iman Shumpert

Kyle Lowry for Marquis Teague + Kirk Hinrich + 2nd Rounder
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:44 PM   #5206 (permalink)
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Rudy Gay + Tyler Hansbrough for Amare Stoudemire + Iman Shumpert

Kyle Lowry for Marquis Teague + Kirk Hinrich + 2nd Rounder
Lowry for Chicago's only two remaining PG's? What if Lowry turns an ankle?
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:01 PM   #5207 (permalink)
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Lowry for Chicago's only two remaining PG's? What if Lowry turns an ankle?
Good point, just realized that Mike James suffered an MCL sprain, so they're gonna have to recall Teague from the D-League. Maybe Chicago would be willing to include Tony Snell, instead?
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:04 PM   #5208 (permalink)
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Good point, just realized that Mike James suffered an MCL sprain, so they're gonna have to recall Teague from the D-League. Maybe Chicago would be willing to include Tony Snell, instead?
Or we give them augustine w/lowry
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Or we give them augustine w/lowry
True, Snell's value probably rose a lot during his last few games, anyways.
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:55 PM   #5210 (permalink)
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Rudy Gay + Tyler Hansbrough for Amare Stoudemire + Iman Shumpert
A very interesting idea. Gay+Lowry for Amare+Shumpert even. It would make a ton of sense for them, and the Raptors would get two years to see how Shumpert can develop in a bigger role.
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A very interesting idea. Gay+Lowry for Amare+Shumpert even. It would make a ton of sense for them, and the Raptors would get two years to see how Shumpert can develop in a bigger role.
Shumpert has knee issues and doesn't look so good anymore. And Amare is owed 45Mil over this season and next. Gay is owed 36mil over the same time. All things considered i'd much rather keep Gay.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:16 PM   #5212 (permalink)
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I think a team that could be a possible Rudy destination would be the Cavs, and a Gay for Varejao, Gee, and Clark trade works in the trade checker. It would fit CLEs isolation heavy offence, and open up playing time for AB. Plus it'll give Kyrie another option to pass to in the starting lineup.

I know it's wishful thinking, but it'd be awesome.
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I think a team that could be a possible Rudy destination would be the Cavs, and a Gay for Varejao, Gee, and Clark trade works in the trade checker. It would fit CLEs isolation heavy offence, and open up playing time for AB. Plus it'll give Kyrie another option to pass to in the starting lineup.

I know it's wishful thinking, but it'd be awesome.
Gay would seamlessly replace Lebron in Brown's pound-heavy offense.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:16 PM   #5214 (permalink)
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I was thinking Bynum/Waiters for RG but that's one's alright as well.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:04 PM   #5215 (permalink)
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Brooklyn:
Rudy Gay
Aaron Gray
DJ Augustine

Toronto:
Andre Blatch (2014 PO/1.4mil)
Shaun Livingston (exp)
Paul Pierce (15mil exp)
2014 1st


Brooklyn:

Williams/Taylor
Johnson/Anderson
Gay/Kirilenko
Garnett/Plumlee
Lopez/Gray

Raptors:

Lowry/Livingston
Derozan/Ross
Pierce/Novak
Amir/TH
JV/Blatche

Bench: Acy, Buycks, Fields, Daye
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:07 PM   #5216 (permalink)
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You'd have to replace 2014 with 2020, since that's the only pick that Brooklyn can trade.

I don't know if they'd do it, probably not, they just got Pierce and it's too early to make moves like this. They have to wait until the team is healthy, I think. Also, this deal mutilates their bench.
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:11 PM   #5217 (permalink)
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Toronto Receives:

Greg Monroe(4M/Detroit)xp
Rodney Stuckey(8.5M/Detroit)xp
Joel Anthony(4M/Miami)2yrs

Miami Receives:

Vince Carter(3.25M/Dallas)xp

Detroit Receives:

Shawn Marion(9.25M/Dallas)xp
Brandon Wright(5M/Dallas)2yrs - can only be dealt after 12/14
Julyan Stone(900K/Toronto)2yrs - can only be dealt after 12/14

Dallas Receives:

Rudy Gay(18M/Toronto)2yrs
Austin Daye(950K/Toronto)2yrs - can only be dealt after 12/14
Tony Mitchell(500K/Detroit)3yrs

I think it its fair for all,share thoughts RF fam.
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:36 PM   #5218 (permalink)
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Toronto Receives:

Greg Monroe(4M/Detroit)xp
Rodney Stuckey(8.5M/Detroit)xp
Joel Anthony(4M/Miami)2yrs

Miami Receives:

Vince Carter(3.25M/Dallas)xp

Detroit Receives:

Shawn Marion(9.25M/Dallas)xp
Brandon Wright(5M/Dallas)2yrs - can only be dealt after 12/14
Julyan Stone(900K/Toronto)2yrs - can only be dealt after 12/14

Dallas Receives:

Rudy Gay(18M/Toronto)2yrs
Austin Daye(950K/Toronto)2yrs - can only be dealt after 12/14
Tony Mitchell(500K/Detroit)3yrs

I think it its fair for all,share thoughts RF fam.
detroit gets hosed, so maybe they do it. And all miami gives up for Carter is anthony? lol
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:48 PM   #5219 (permalink)
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A very interesting idea. Gay+Lowry for Amare+Shumpert even. It would make a ton of sense for them, and the Raptors would get two years to see how Shumpert can develop in a bigger role.
Melo and Gay together? Oh god
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:53 PM   #5220 (permalink)
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Melo and Gay together? Oh god
That would be a NY kind of move.
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