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Old 07-12-2010, 09:08 AM   #441 (permalink)
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its already been reported the deal is actually jose + Part of TPE + jones for Chandler + diaw...

and i love the second trade...if bc can pull something close to that....i would be more than happy...
I knew the Charlotte and Phoenix trades were being reported, just added a proposed NO deal as well.

NO just might be willing to do that as well. Instant cap savings, moves a pretty big contract in Posey gets a young big on a cheap contract in place of dealing collison.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:09 AM   #442 (permalink)
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Well, after Turk for Barbosa and Jones

part 1:
TPE and Jones for Diaw
part 2
Jose and Evans for Chandler

Next:
TPE(remaining around 7 million) and Davis for Collison and Posey

toronto adds alot of depth and athleticism. Chandler is a rooughly 12 million expiring who along with Banks and Beli gives team around 18 million in 2010 expirings. Pose, Diaw and Barbosa gives team about 22 million in 2011 expirings.

Final roster for start of 2010
Collison/Jack/Banks
Demar/Barbosa/Beli
Weems/Kleiza/Posey
Bargs/Diaw/Dorsey
Chandler/Amir/Alabi
???????? Did you mean Curry and Chandler????????
Chandler only makes 2.1 million
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???????? Did you mean Curry and Chandler????????
Chandler only makes 2.1 million
Tyson chandler from Charlotte. 12.7 million dollar salary expiring
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Minny in
TPE and Davis

Toronto in:
Ben Gordon, 2011 pick from Detroit, Rubio

Detroit in:
Jefferson

Why
Minny saves a load of money immediately, adds a nice young piece to avoid never even having Rubio suit up for them.


Detroit adds a 20-10 low post guy they have been missing for years, get away from Gordon as well.


Toronto adds Rubio, a very solid looking 2011 pick from Detroit and a SG who can shoot.

Jack/Beli/Banks
Gordon/Barbosa/Weems
Demar/Kleiza/Weems
Bargs/Diaw/Dorsey
Chandler/Amir/Alabi
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:52 AM   #447 (permalink)
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Minny in
TPE and Davis

Toronto in:
Ben Gordon, 2011 pick from Detroit, Rubio

Detroit in:
Jefferson

Why
Minny saves a load of money immediately, adds a nice young piece to avoid never even having Rubio suit up for them.


Detroit adds a 20-10 low post guy they have been missing for years, get away from Gordon as well.


Toronto adds Rubio, a very solid looking 2011 pick from Detroit and a SG who can shoot.

Jack/Beli/Banks
Gordon/Barbosa/Weems
Demar/Kleiza/Weems
Bargs/Diaw/Dorsey
Chandler/Amir/Alabi
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Minny in
TPE and Davis

Toronto in:
Ben Gordon, 2011 pick from Detroit, Rubio

Detroit in:
Jefferson

Why
Minny saves a load of money immediately, adds a nice young piece to avoid never even having Rubio suit up for them.


Detroit adds a 20-10 low post guy they have been missing for years, get away from Gordon as well.


Toronto adds Rubio, a very solid looking 2011 pick from Detroit and a SG who can shoot.

Jack/Beli/Banks
Gordon/Barbosa/Weems
Demar/Kleiza/Weems
Bargs/Diaw/Dorsey
Chandler/Amir/Alabi
That's a bit of a sideways move for Detroit - and they end up giving up quite a bit. And Minnesota gives up a ton just to get Ed Davis and a TPE.
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memphis trades:

Thabeet, Henry, Conley

gets:
Jose, Dorsey, small tpe(phoenix)

Memphis saves money, saves face with the henry refusing to sign fiasco, adds a starting pg who will fit very well, and cheap depth.

toronto moves jose and adds a young shooter and defensive bigman and a solidpg in conley

Conley, jack, banks
henry, barbosa, beli
demar, kleiza, weems
amir, davis, evans
bargs, thabeet, alabi
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could be jack and evans or beli as well
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Jose/cash or Weems

for

Prince

Jack/Beli/Banks
Barbosa/DD/Beli
Prince/Kleiza/Weems
Bargs/Amir/Davis
TPE/Dorsey/Amir/Alabi
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memphis trades:

Thabeet, Henry, Conley

gets:
Jose, Dorsey, small tpe(phoenix)

Memphis saves money, saves face with the henry refusing to sign fiasco, adds a starting pg who will fit very well, and cheap depth.

toronto moves jose and adds a young shooter and defensive bigman and a solidpg in conley

Conley, jack, banks
henry, barbosa, beli
demar, kleiza, weems
amir, davis, evans
bargs, thabeet, alabi
not a chance...memphis would not do that...besides they proved that they are not gonna cheap out by signing gay...this trade makes no sense what so ever for the grizz...
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memphis trades:

Thabeet, Henry, Conley

gets:
Jose, Dorsey, small tpe(phoenix)

Memphis saves money, saves face with the henry refusing to sign fiasco, adds a starting pg who will fit very well, and cheap depth.

toronto moves jose and adds a young shooter and defensive bigman and a solidpg in conley

Conley, jack, banks
henry, barbosa, beli
demar, kleiza, weems
amir, davis, evans
bargs, thabeet, alabi
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:42 AM   #454 (permalink)
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Philly trades:
Low Williams, Willie Green

gets:
Jose Calderon

Philly adds little salary but gets a pass first pg who should bring alot of stability to starting lineup


Utah trades:
AK47

gets:
Lou, Willie

Utah adds a backup pg for Deron and saves about 6.5 million off payroll dropping them back down below the tax level

Toronto trades:
Jose, 6.5million TPE

Gets:
AK47

Toronto adds a legit defensive sf to help cover some of Bargs deficiancies, he is also a huge expiring.

Jack/Beli/banks
Demar/Barbosa/Weems
AK47/Kleiza/Jones
Amir/Davis/Dorsey
Bargs/Alabi/Evans

Team still could use a pg upgrade, but definately needs depth at pg spot and a better backup center. Hopefully Banks/Evans, TPE(9 million remaining + 2.7 from Phoenix) or a pick will bring it in.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:13 AM   #455 (permalink)
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This is not my trade but one that makes sense to me.

Trade Jose and Jones plus TPE to Indiana for Ford and Foster
What is does for Indiana is about a 6.5 million savings instantly and gets them a starting PG. The savings also would reduce the real cost of Jose's contract to about 7 million a year.

Jones would likely be released by Indiana and I know the Raptors would release Ford
Foster would give us a defensive back-up center.
Both Fords and Fosters contracts expire at the end of the year.
Not as good as the Diaw/Chandler deal but not bad.
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This is not my trade but one that makes sense to me.

Trade Jose and Jones plus TPE to Indiana for Ford and Foster
What is does for Indiana is about a 6.5 million savings instantly and gets them a starting PG. The savings also would reduce the real cost of Jose's contract to about 7 million a year.

Jones would likely be released by Indiana and I know the Raptors would release Ford
Foster would give us a defensive back-up center.
Both Fords and Fosters contracts expire at the end of the year.
Not as good as the Diaw/Chandler deal but not bad.
not without George included.
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..and then Indiana breaks off talks.
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..and then Indiana breaks off talks.
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Toronto Trades Calderon, Miami 1st 2011 to Detroit for Gordon

then

Toronto Trades Miami 1st 2011, Future Toronto 1st (2013), Reggie Evans and Bosh TPE to Minnesota for Flynn + Chandler

Toronto IN:
Gordon
Flynn
Chandler

Toronto Out:
Calderon
Evans
BOSH TPE

Detroit IN:
Calderon
Miami pick 2011

Detroit OUT:
Gordon

Minnesota IN:
TPE, two 1st rounders, Reggie Evans

Minnesota OUT:
Chandler, Flynn

Raps Line-Up:

Flynn/Jack/Banks
Gordon/Barbosa/Belinelli
DD/Weems/MLE
Bargs/Amir
Chandler/Bargs/Alabi

Unless Tyson Chandler was traded to Minnesota last night, I'm pretty sure you can't trade a player you don't have.
And, in addition, Chandler would have to be traded on his own as of right now, he can't be packaged in any deal.

What's Minnesota's motivation to complete that deal? They already got a massive TPE from Utah. You can't just keep collecting TPEs.

I don't think Detroit does that deal. They'd probably rather move Hamilton or Stuckey before Gordon.
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:45 AM   #460 (permalink)
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I was bored at work so I conjured up a mega trade NBA Trade Machine - ESPN
Main point is to get Iguodala for giving Philly massive long term salary cut

Toronto in
Elton Brand
Andre Iguodala
Lou Williams

Toronto out
Jose Calderon
Reggie Evans
Marcus Banks
Marco Belinelli
12.3M TPE (Iguodala)

Philly out
Elton Brand
Andre Iguodala
Lou Williams

Philly in total 22M expirings and 12.3M TPE
Reggie Evans
Marcus Banks
Marco Belinelli
12.3M TPE (Iguodala)
Delonte West
Anthony Parker
Maurice Evans

Atlanta Hawks in
Jose Calderon

Atlanta Hawks out
Marvin Williams
Maurice Evans

Cleveland Cavs in
Marvin Williams

Cleveland out
Anthony Parker
Delonte West
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