The Official RF Trade Proposal Thread - Page 180
Old 02-02-2013, 01:48 PM   #3581 (permalink)
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Well that's the thing, its a gamble and hope to re-sign them. High risk, high reward.
Yeah, but the risk is so high. I think the chance of him staying in Toronto is very low.

And then the team would be Lowry-DeRozan-Gay-Amir-Gray with no upside guys or significant trade assets. That team would be stuck in mediocrity for the next 2 years while the Cavs and the Pistons etc develop their brilliant youngsters, use their massive cap space and leave the Raptors in the dust. And then what? Hope that a good free agent saves the team in 2015?

I don't think the Lakers would do it either, i think they expect to keep Dwight, but it's too much of a risk for Toronto anyway.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:36 PM   #3582 (permalink)
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Honestly we should try to resign jose to cheap in the offseason if he's willing to back up, or go get a young guy that went in the 2nd round or undrafted

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Old 02-02-2013, 02:37 PM   #3583 (permalink)
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Yeah, Bargs and ross For favours is a very interesting one. I'd say ross and favours have fairly equal draft "pedigree" but favours is further along in his development. I really don't wanna lose ross, esp while derozan and gay need to prove they will work together. Also, look at amir's production. He's limited compared to favours but if he can play he has been should we give up a lot to get a pf? I think we should either trade Bargs for role players that we need, and/or draft picks. See how the season goes and look to use a pick to trade for something or let the rookie be part of our depth for next season. Too much is up in the air at the moment to speculate on a big trade. What do u think?
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:57 PM   #3584 (permalink)
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Utah has Favors, Millsap, Jefferson and Kanter. All of them are either better players right now than Bargnani or have serious upside. And they've been much healthier over the last 2 years.

So, why would Utah even want Bargnani, much less give something for him? They can just use that money to re-sign Millsap. Yeah Millsap will want 4 years but he's much better and healthier and he's been there for a long time.

The way i see it, that bargani+Ross for Favors+Williams deal basically asks Utah to absorb a bad contract and give up a better, more proven youngster. That's from their point of view.

I doubt they'd even take Valanciunas for Favors straight up, tbh. Both are high upside, Valanciunas is more of a center, Favors is a 4/5 and better suited to play next to Kanter and he's more ready now.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:20 PM   #3585 (permalink)
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A trade with denver :
Barg + ross for W. Chandler + Faried + Fournier
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:33 PM   #3586 (permalink)
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Please no more Wilson Chandler talk. The guy is done.

I'd like to see Bismack come here.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:47 PM   #3587 (permalink)
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Please no more Wilson Chandler talk. The guy is done.

I'd like to see Bismack come here.
Bit premature to say he's done imo.

I think it's a fairly sensible trade but i'm just allergic to trading ross! It's way too tempting to see what he will become.

edit: and in terms of "sell high" you couldn't get much higher than faried. Good player, really like him but his stock is sooo high!

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Old 02-02-2013, 06:30 PM   #3588 (permalink)
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i didn't put chandler to get him, but for trade sake (financial) to get Faried in fact, we must take a bad contract. so that's it.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:37 PM   #3589 (permalink)
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i didn't put chandler to get him, but for trade sake (financial) to get Faried in fact, we must take a bad contract. so that's it.
Denver doesn't trade Faried-we couldn't offer enough.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:50 PM   #3590 (permalink)
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Here is a trade i like as long as Josh Smith signs an extension

To Toronto
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John Jenkins
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To Atlanta
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Andrea Bargnani
Landry Fields
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:10 PM   #3591 (permalink)
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Here is a trade i like as long as Josh Smith signs an extension

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John Jenkins
Josh Smith



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Andrea Bargnani
Landry Fields
2014 second round draft pick
Josh Smith won't sign an extension, the Raptors could only offer 2 years right now. He'll wait till the summer.

As for the trade... Why would Atlanta do this? They give up Smith + possibly the best pure shooter in this rookie class (him or Beal). And they get bad contracts and a 2nd rounder?
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:21 AM   #3592 (permalink)
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Phily get Barg + AA + a 1st pick from Orlando
Orlando get T YOung
Toronto get tpe (Young) - 8.3M + Nicholson
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:06 PM   #3593 (permalink)
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I've been trying to make a deal for Pau with Bargs but it's been hard especially with Jose gone. So: Bargs, Gray, LKZ for Pau, Sacre. Send the SAK 2nd round pick to LAL if need be.
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I think the pau thing depends on how desperate la get to move him. We should just wait and be opportunist. If they will accept your idea or Bargs and fields, we take it. Yeah i'll throw a 2nd rounder in there, if it makes a difference. But nothing else.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:52 PM   #3595 (permalink)
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We will end the season with only two PG? (knowing that Lowry is injury prone)
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:23 PM   #3596 (permalink)
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Ross + jv + Bargnani for Howard with a promise to sign here long term
That would be FUNtastic
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:57 PM   #3597 (permalink)
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I've been trying to make a deal for Pau with Bargs but it's been hard especially with Jose gone. So: Bargs, Gray, LKZ for Pau, Sacre. Send the SAK 2nd round pick to LAL if need be.
SAC pick goes to memphis I think.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:00 PM   #3598 (permalink)
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I've been trying to make a deal for Pau with Bargs but it's been hard especially with Jose gone. So: Bargs, Gray, LKZ for Pau, Sacre. Send the SAK 2nd round pick to LAL if need be.
yeah i think it's impossible to make one without either Jose or Lowry or serious prospects/picks

If they got an offer of just Bargs/Kleiza/throw-ins, they'd just hang up. They don't get better as a team, don't save much tax next year, add a ton of money in 2 years.. There's just nothing to like for LA.
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yeah i think it's impossible to make one without either Jose or Lowry or serious prospects/picks

If they got an offer of just Bargs/Kleiza/throw-ins, they'd just hang up. They don't get better as a team, don't save much tax next year, add a ton of money in 2 years.. There's just nothing to like for LA.
Yeah and that's the problem. It all depends on how desperate they get.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:23 PM   #3600 (permalink)
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SAS get Lowry + Barg + AA
TOR get Parker + Blair + C. Joseph
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