The Official RF Trade Proposal Thread

[Ex2k]

Sign and trade

Bosh
Calderon
Evans
13th pick

for

Amare (signed to max)
Nash

then trade Turk for prince

Raps starting 5:

Nash
Amare
Derozen
Prince
Bargs

[carp]

Originally Posted by Ex2k

Sign and trade

Bosh
Calderon
Evans
13th pick

for

Amare (signed to max)
Nash

then trade Turk for prince

Raps starting 5:

Nash
Amare
Derozen
Prince
Bargs

don't undervalue the Suns' players

[MangoKidHoops]

Originally Posted by Ex2k

Sign and trade

Bosh
Calderon
Evans
13th pick

for

Amare (signed to max)
Nash

then trade Turk for prince

Raps starting 5:

Nash
Amare
Derozen
Prince
Bargs

Sarver doesn't deal with Colangelo.

[ws28]

some of you guys love lou williams.. that dude is wack, stop including him in your trades lol

[carp]

Originally Posted by ws28

some of you guys love lou williams.. that dude is wack, stop including him in your trades lol

+1....

[VanCity]

Originally Posted by ws28

some of you guys love lou williams.. that dude is wack, stop including him in your trades lol

the dude is a stud...

[MangoKidHoops]

It's not about the fact that guys LOVE Louis Williams, it would be having the chance to acquire Thaddeus Young and the Sixers insisting that we take on Williams' contract in the process to make the salaries work.

I can't see the Sixers giving up on Young for so little however.

[Snooch]

The Rumored deals

Sactown out
Noccioni, Garcia, #33

in
Turk, Beli, Weems

Sactown saves 3+ million instantly, gains a playmaker, doesnt really take on any long term salary.



Philly trades:
Williams, YOung

in:
Jack, #13

Philly gets a playmaker and another lotto pick


To add to that

Charlotte trades:
Chandler, Diop, Augustin

gets:
Jose, Evans, Banks

Charlotte sheds salary instantly and moves a terrible contract in Diop. Chandlers value is very low as he is always injured, Evans and Banks are expirings and Jose is a pass first pg who saves teams need to resign Felton and allows Jack to become more offensive.



TORONTO:
Augustin/Williams
Demar/Garcia
Young/Noccioni
Bargs/Amir/Dorsey
Chandler

Teams gets alot younger and more athletic. A possible Bosh deal would sure up lineup(if Bynum then He and Chandler man the center position and hopefully neither gets injured at the same time, if Miami/NY/Chicago get a bit of filler pieces and TPE's to use on some free agents of our own. Starts the rebuild proces off quite nicely with young point guards, a young wings.

[MangoKidHoops]

In order for that Sacramento deal to work, we'd have to toss in either the #13 pick or Derozan.

Philadelphia wouldn't trade Young and Williams for Jack and the #13 alone. That's not a fair trade for them.

[jeffb]

To Toronto:
Brand, Iggy, #2 (Turner)

To Miami:
Bosh

To Philly:
Beasley, Derozan, Jack, #13, #18


?/Jose/Banks
Turner/Weems/Beli
Iggy/Weems
Bargnani/Amir/Evans
Brand/Amir/Dorsey


Then Trade Hedo + filler to get a PG (if possible), and sign another big with the MLE.

[MangoKidHoops]

Originally Posted by jeffb

To Toronto:
Brand, Iggy, #2 (Turner)

To Miami:
Bosh

To Philly:
Beasley, Derozan, Jack, #13, #18

If you take the #2 out of the equation, Philly would probably do that deal. Problem is for Toronto.. why would you take on Brand and Iguodala with no Bosh here?

[Windex]

Originally Posted by jeffb

To Toronto:
Brand, Iggy, #2 (Turner)

To Miami:
Bosh

To Philly:
Beasley, Derozan, Jack, #13, #18


?/Jose/Banks
Turner/Weems/Beli
Iggy/Weems
Bargnani/Amir/Evans
Brand/Amir/Dorsey


Then Trade Hedo + filler to get a PG (if possible), and sign another big with the MLE.

add another first, Weems and possibly Chalmers

[jeffb]

Originally Posted by MangoKidHoops

If you take the #2 out of the equation, Philly would probably do that deal.

Yeah true, but they'd be getting a SG with some upside with Derozan (No Turner but not bad) and two first round picks. Add to that Jack which they can either flip in another deal or allows them to trade Williams or Holiday. And Beasley in the right situation might be a fit.

Their lineup:

Williams/Jack
Derozan/Green/Henry
Beasley/Carney
Young/Whiteside/Smith
Daly/Speights/Whiteside

+ #13 (Henry?), #18 (Orton or Whiteside if he falls a little?) Not bad imo.

[MangoKidHoops]

Originally Posted by jeffb

Yeah true, but they'd be getting a SG with some upside with Derozan (No Turner but not bad) and two first round picks. Add to that Jack which they can either flip in another deal or allows them to trade Williams or Holiday. And Beasley in the right situation might be a fit.

Their lineup:

Williams/Jack
Derozan/Green/Henry
Beasley/Carney
Young/Whiteside/Smith
Daly/Speights/Whiteside

+ #13 (Henry?), #18 (Orton or Whiteside if he falls a little?) Not bad imo.

So why should Philadelphia give away their best player and all star plus a guy who could turn into an all-star to move down in the draft, a guy who could be a solid player, a guy with character issues and a backup 1? Philadelphia gets the worst of the 3..

[Snooch]

take out the number2 and keep the 18th to toronto..

[MangoKidHoops]

This team isn't better with Iguodala than Bosh. It's a sideways move.

[jeffb]

Originally Posted by MangoKidHoops

This team isn't better with Iguodala than Bosh. It's a sideways move.

Bosh is gone. Can we do better then Iggy, Turner, Brand. Doubtful to say the least. Even this deal is little more then a pipe dream anyway.

[MangoKidHoops]

Originally Posted by jeffb

Bosh is gone. Can we do better then Iggy, Turner, Brand. Doubtful to say the least. Even this deal is little more then a pipe dream anyway.

You won't get Turner AND Igoudala in a deal. It'll be one or the other.

[DVS]

Originally Posted by MangoKidHoops

This team isn't better with Iguodala than Bosh. It's a sideways move.

Raptors are famous for going sideways

[Go Zags!]

This trade will at first sound crazy, but I think it makes a lot of sense on all four sides:

To Raps:
Maggette
Iguodala
Nocioni

To Kings:
Turkoglu
Bellinelli

To Sixers:
Derozan
Weems
Banks

To Warriors:
Evans
Udrih

Now, we know Turk isn't coming back. He's thrown out going back to Sacramento. He'd complement Evans well, and the Kings were shopping Nocioni at the deadline, his DUI not endearing himself to Kings management well. Sacramento gains an edge, and it's the kind of move they need to make to enter the playoff race in the west. For Warriors, the Maggette deal holds them back a bit, Evans gives them an expiring contract, while Udrih is a much more manageable contract for only two more years. They gain flexibility for the 2011 free agent race. Again, Maggette was shopped last year at the deadline. For the Sixers, Weems and Derozan are similar in many ways to Iggy, but come cheap and are both controllable for five more years if the Sixers wish while Banks provides an expiring. Sixers can't get rid of Brand, so Iggy becomes next best option and was shopped last year as well. Raptors could sweeten this deal by offering some picks or cash if need be. While Toronto gets the most talent, all three teams partaking in the deal gain flexibility and shed some problems. Now, Toronto takes on more money long term, but will remain under the salary cap this year if Bosh walks. If he does, this trade provides much more of a slashing and cutting element on the wings for the Raps while allowing Bargnani to do his thing. We will need to consider how to run our offence next year if Chris leaves and I believe this would work well. This is what Vince brought our team, and Maggette and Iggy can score in bunches. With a solid signing using the mid-level exception and a good draft choice this year, a new core develops. After watching the Raps the last few years, it becomes clear that things are not working. I really think by getting rid of seven (Bosh, Turk, Weems, Derozan, Evans, Banks and Bellinelli) not to mention all the expiring deals, this team can reinvent itself. But then of course, BC and JT can argue for patience as the team tries to develop chemistry, but I would rather take that than wait for this crew to implode. A solid sign and trade for Bosh could also bring in possibly two solid rotation players which will help fill out the roster next year.