The Official RF Trade Proposal Thread - Page 115
Old 07-04-2012, 09:33 PM   #2281 (permalink)
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I posted this on the " Lowry thread " then minutes later i'm hearing Nash to LA lol

anyway again

Houston Rockets are a bit desperate themselves,people need to realize this. The Raptors don't need to overreact by trading one of their best scorers in DeMar Derozan. Afterwards,fans will be complaining that they have no wing player who can get to the line. DeRozan is the best on the Raptors at attacking the rim/drawing fouls and it's needed in this team's offesive game.

Here's a proposal that I've orchestrated on ESPN's Trade Machine
Proposal Link : http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7wsweve

* = If necessary

Toronto Gets: PG- Kyle Lowry
Houston Gets: C- Pau Gasol
Los Angeles Gets: PF- Luis Scola, PG- Jose Calderon, *Raptors 2013 1st Round Pick (Top 8-10 protected)

It was approved but I consider this only to be just a template for an offer between these three clubs. Maybe picks could be included for complete fairness. Every organization gets to move disgruntled and undesired players for coveted ones at positions they need help in. All players are still good/very useful starters and the kicker is that with Calderon's contract coming off the books,it gives the Lakers cap space to pursue Chris Paul at PG after the upcoming season.

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Old 07-05-2012, 02:40 AM   #2282 (permalink)
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Tough day as a Raps fan,don't have a proposal yet but maybe Dallas could be a suitor for Calderon in a three or four team deal. Kidd is old and still eyeing the Knicks. The Mavs have nothing at PG at the moment and may be desperate.
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:48 AM   #2283 (permalink)
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Tough day as a Raps fan,don't have a proposal yet but maybe Dallas could be a suitor for Calderon in a three or four team deal. Kidd is old and still eyeing the Knicks. The Mavs have nothing at PG at the moment and may be desperate.
Kidd will re-sign there imo. There or NY.
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:16 AM   #2284 (permalink)
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:16 AM   #2285 (permalink)
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Kidd will re-sign there imo. There or NY.
Yup,ESPN is reporting that he's close to resigning...bummer!
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:50 AM   #2286 (permalink)
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DeRozan and JJ/Linas for Leonard, Anderson, Joseph and a first

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Old 07-05-2012, 06:49 AM   #2287 (permalink)
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Maybe the Raptors could try to acquire PG. Collison

I'm not sure how the current rosters would measure because they don't have Hill and Hibbert on there but this proposal was approved on ESPN's Trade Machine
NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

It's just a template for a deal with these 3 teams, maybe picks could be added for complete fairness.

Raptors Get- Korver,Collison
Pacers Get- Watson,Butler
Bulls Get- Calderon,Pendergraph

Toronto could then amnesty Kleiza,A.Johnson or waive Korver(not sure if this is worth it). Gets a decent starter or back up in Collison until next years FA or Draft.

Indiana gets another decent back up to G. Hill at PG

Chicago gets a legitimate starting PG in Calderon until Rose returns and cap relief after the season ends from his expiring contract.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:01 AM   #2288 (permalink)
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1.
SAC get Barg + forbes
toronto get robinson + evans

2.
Dallas get calderon
toronto get beaubois + iguy
Phily get marion + Davis + ross


3.
sign fields


Evans/Beaubois/Holloway
DD/Fields/AA
Iguy/JJ/Kleiza
Amir/Robinson/Acy
JV/Gray/Magz


we keep our capspace.
we get younger but maybe a little stronger and more hustle.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:16 AM   #2289 (permalink)
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Maybe the Raptors could try to acquire PG. Collison

I'm not sure how the current rosters would measure because they don't have Hill and Hibbert on there but this proposal was approved on ESPN's Trade Machine
NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

It's just a template for a deal with these 3 teams, maybe picks could be added for complete fairness.

Raptors Get- Korver,Collison
Pacers Get- Watson,Butler
Bulls Get- Calderon,Pendergraph

Toronto could then amnesty Kleiza,A.Johnson or waive Korver(not sure if this is worth it). Gets a decent starter or back up in Collison until next years FA or Draft.

Indiana gets another decent back up to G. Hill at PG

Chicago gets a legitimate starting PG in Calderon until Rose returns and cap relief after the season ends from his expiring contract.


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1.
SAC get Barg + forbes
toronto get robinson + evans

2.
Dallas get calderon
toronto get beaubois + iguy
Phily get marion + Davis + ross


3.
sign fields


Evans/Beaubois/Holloway
DD/Fields/AA
Iguy/JJ/Kleiza
Amir/Robinson/Acy
JV/Gray/Magz


we keep our capspace.
we get younger but maybe a little stronger and more hustle.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:37 AM   #2290 (permalink)
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1.
SAC get Barg + forbes
toronto get robinson + evans

2.
Dallas get calderon
toronto get beaubois + iguy
Phily get marion + Davis + ross


3.
sign fields


Evans/Beaubois/Holloway
DD/Fields/AA
Iguy/JJ/Kleiza
Amir/Robinson/Acy
JV/Gray/Magz


we keep our capspace.
we get younger but maybe a little stronger and more hustle.


evans can run the point?
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:41 AM   #2291 (permalink)
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he was a pg during his first season and win the Rookie of the year !!!

20/5/5 during his first season, not that bad.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:43 AM   #2292 (permalink)
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he was a pg during his first season and win the Rookie of the year !!!

20/5/5 during his first season, not that bad.
Yeah, I just dont think we could get him AND robinson. They have a young core, expecting big things from them in a couple years. If they would ever trade it would probably have to be Bargs + Calderon future 2nd first.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:45 AM   #2293 (permalink)
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yeah maybe
barg + 1st 2013 (top 14 protected)
for evans + robinson


we will have enough asset/young talent to not draft during next draft, or if we go lottery again, then we could get a pg.

i really think barg/cousins in frontcourt can be very interresting to watch.
one under the rim and a solid shooter whom can penetrate.

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Old 07-05-2012, 12:31 PM   #2294 (permalink)
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jose and ed for Lowry and scola

then look to trade Bargs for a SF.

i know people think scola's contract is disgusting but i'm still not sure houston would do this. Scola is still playing at a good level. He's got so many post moves and would fit our system better than bargs. Also we may have to take the contract to get lowry in. Houston can move on from the lowry problems and see what patterson can do as a starter.

if people are right that houston hates that scola contract then maybe we can squeeze something else out of them as well.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:34 PM   #2295 (permalink)
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1.
SAC get Barg + forbes
toronto get robinson + evans

2.
Dallas get calderon
toronto get beaubois + iguy
Phily get marion + Davis + ross


3.
sign fields


Evans/Beaubois/Holloway
DD/Fields/AA
Iguy/JJ/Kleiza
Amir/Robinson/Acy
JV/Gray/Magz


we keep our capspace.
we get younger but maybe a little stronger and more hustle.
More hustle yes but that team couldn't hit a 3pointer even if it were 10 feet closer to the basket...
There r absolutly no shooters on that Roster.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:40 PM   #2296 (permalink)
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:49 PM   #2297 (permalink)
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jose and ed for Lowry and scola

then look to trade Bargs for a SF.

i know people think scola's contract is disgusting but i'm still not sure houston would do this. Scola is still playing at a good level. He's got so many post moves and would fit our system better than bargs. Also we may have to take the contract to get lowry in. Houston can move on from the lowry problems and see what patterson can do as a starter.

if people are right that houston hates that scola contract then maybe we can squeeze something else out of them as well.
I'd add JB to that deal in a s+t. Scola's contract isn't too bad. In '14 he makes just over $10 million and in 2015 he makes just over $11 million but it is non-guaranteed. We don't really have much to offer Houston.
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:15 PM   #2298 (permalink)
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1. Dallas get Calderon + JJ
Portland get marion + JB (s&t : 5M)
toronto get Batum + Beaubois

dallas get a starting pg.
portland get a vet SF whom can defend, and seems tobe a good teammate.
WE get a young starter at sf and a backup pg.

2.
MInny gets davis + Gray (S&t - 10M/3years)
Toronto get Pekovic



Lowry/Beaubois/Uzoh or Holloway
DD/Fields/Ross
Batum/Kleiza/AA
Bargs/amir/Acy
Pekovic/JV/Magz
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Something suddenly dawned on me today while I was at work. The Clippers would be a perfect trade partner for us in a Calderon deal.

To Los Angeles:

Jose Calderon

To Toronto:

Caron Butler

LA gets a perfect back-up point guard for CP3 with the departure of Mo Williams. LA can also allow Billups to walk if they choose to do so, or sign him and give him minutes at the 2.

Toronto gets a tough small forward who would be great in Casey's system. Defends and attacks the basket.

Lowry/Bayless
DeRozan/Fields/Ross
Butler/Johnson/Kleiza
Bargs/Davis
Val/Amir
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Old 07-05-2012, 08:10 PM   #2300 (permalink)
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I was just thinking: Houston needs a PG and we need a SF. We could try to get Terrence Jones for Calderon and other players (Davis and AJ as usual)
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