The OFFICIAL RAPTORS Free-Agency Pursuit Thread - Page 10
Old 07-01-2012, 08:41 AM   #181 (permalink)
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How can we afford signing Nash AND Batum? Not gonna happen
well there are ways to do it, but i doubt that BC will
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:05 AM   #182 (permalink)
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While we're on the topic, league sources say free-agent PG Goran Dragic also is looking for a deal that starts in the $10M range.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:15 AM   #183 (permalink)
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Only way to get both Nash and Batum is some elaborate S&T deals that only BC can do
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:25 AM   #184 (permalink)
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:36 AM   #185 (permalink)
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LOL Gretzky.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:39 AM   #186 (permalink)
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Only way to get both Nash and Batum is some elaborate S&T deals that only BC can do

They'll have to offer a contract that averages 12-13Mil and have it front loaded to have Portland Balk at matching.

NOT HAPPENING
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:43 AM   #187 (permalink)
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They'll have to offer a contract that averages 12-13Mil and have it front loaded to have Portland Balk at matching.

NOT HAPPENING
Why wouldn't it happen? If we trade a lot of the shit we have there could be more cap space.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:45 AM   #188 (permalink)
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We should be trying to get gay or iggy somehow to lure Nash.

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Old 07-01-2012, 09:45 AM   #189 (permalink)
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Deal JC + Amir for Batum.

Calderon would be a good backup and mentor for Lillard while Amir provides a backup to both big man spots.
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Why wouldn't it happen? If we trade a lot of the shit we have there could be more cap space.

We would need to amnesty Jose and somehow dump Kleiza or Amir's contract which would give us 27Mil in capspace.

Or you have Nash's backloaded + Batum's contract front loaded. But even then, 22Mil wouldn't be enough.

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We don't need to amnesty Calderon if we can trade him for a starting small forward and then amnesty can be used on someone else...

Klieza maybe?
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We should be trying to get gay or iggy somehow to lure Nash.

I prefer Batum. Besides, we don't have enough to get Gay and I don't see philly giving us Iggy unless we really overpay (division rival).
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:01 AM   #193 (permalink)
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is Jose's contract really that toxic? can't we find one team in the whole league that would take a pretty good pg who is expiring next year, for 10mil? Hell give us future pick in return and I'm happy, that is if we sign Nash

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i dont see why we cant go over the salary cap, whats the salary cap for the upcoming season anyways?
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is Jose's contract really that toxic? can't we find one team in the whole league that would take a pretty good pg who is expiring next year, for 10mil? Hell give us future pick in return and I'm happy, that is we sign Nash
Apparently LA, Miami are interested...

But only if he's amnestied... Miami cant afford him at 10 mill this season, can LA give us anything in return?
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We would need to amnesty Jose and somehow dump Kleiza or Amir's contract which would give us 27Mil in capspace.

Or you have Nash's backloaded + Batum's contract front loaded. But even then, 22Mil wouldn't be enough.
can we deal jc says to lakers not getting back any just to unload his contract then amnisty amir if that is possible we have about 23m
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is Jose's contract really that toxic? can't we find one team in the whole league that would take a pretty good pg who is expiring next year, for 10mil? Hell give us future pick in return and I'm happy, that is if we sign Nash

If we trade him it'll have to be for a solid SF that fits money wise and system wise. If we trade him for a solid SF we'll have to throw other players into the mix and a draft pick in all likelyhood. Personally I prefer amnestying him and signing Batum if that's even possibly. In that case I look at it as a trade anyway......Calderon for Batum straight up. It's a means to an end.


Why people get so irked at the idea of amnestying Jose is beyond me.

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Apparently LA, Miami are interested...

But only if he's amnestied... Miami cant afford him at 10 mill this season, can LA give us anything in return?
pick? its still better than letting him walking away with nothing in return
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i dont see why we cant go over the salary cap, whats the salary cap for the upcoming season anyways?
Because you can't sign players for more money then you have left in the cap?
I assume you know this.
They can sign and trade to go over, sure, but it's not like we can just go "Hey, we want to pay Batum 11 mil, would you mind trading him to us so that we can have him?"
We have to give them a bunch of stuff so that they'll do it.
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Why people get so irked at the idea of amnestying Jose is beyond me.
Because he's an expiring contract and he comes off the books next year affording you even greater financial flexibility. A more prudent choice would be Amir seeing that you're on the hook for several more years and you have a glut of players at that position.

Also, from a personal standpoint, he's sometimes the only player on the team that seems to give a shit about what's happening. He gets paid too much (sure) but he's the closest this team has to an actual leader. Maybe his skills have deteriorated (sure) but his intangibles are a bit harder to replace.
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