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Old 11-17-2013, 08:05 PM   #501 (permalink)
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that talent is overstated. It was ugly today again.... save for JV.
no i mean yea we are not super talanted i get it, but this is not going to be a bottom three team....so whats the point, i mean all they do is play hero ball, either demar or rudy go one on one and the teams load up on them..no ball movement what so ever, i wonder if he even calls any plays, and JV gets all his points from putbacks and cuts, ive hardly seen any plays called for him and Lowry i dont even want to start.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:50 PM   #502 (permalink)
and that's the bottom line, cause JV said so!!!

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Get this guy out of here. Plays Steve FUCKING Novak in OT over Valanciunas? Are you kidding me? Novak, the guy who has mostly ridden the bench all year gets 4:30 key minutes in a game?

Unless he's doing it to lose, in that case...
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:54 PM   #503 (permalink)
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Get this guy out of here. Plays Steve FUCKING Novak in OT over Valanciunas? Are you kidding me? Novak, the guy who has mostly ridden the bench all year gets 4:30 key minutes in a game?

Unless he's doing it to lose, in that case...
MU knows what he is doing, it's all going according to the plan
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:58 PM   #504 (permalink)
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Amen, brother.
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:27 PM   #505 (permalink)
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Um ... the only fail is your fail to grasp sarcasm. U realize this guy is actually trying to win games rite? It just really looks like he's trying to tank.
This is the best tank job the raps can do for now. DC knows how to get the least out of players! Go DC go!
He's trying to win or he is trying to tank make up your mind. Either way he fails at both no reason to commend him at all.
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:46 PM   #506 (permalink)
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Mehh, I think the talent is there to at the very least be .500

That being said, this team...

A) Doesn't fit, players don't compliment each other
B) The coach and his system sucks balls
C) There is no depth on this team that can be depended on


So while we have talent, it's basically 1-7 at best and the rest of the team can't be counted on to give any kind of consistent production. Add to that the 1-7 players don't share the ball and play off one another, and don't seem to trust each other this is what you get.


You take one of DD/RG off this team and add one of Klay Thompson/Batum and then add a pure shooter off the bench (Jamal Crawford type of player) and this is a top 5 team in the EC imo. Essentially without shooting to spread the floor the offense gets stagnant and opposing teams pack the paint and dare us to shoot 18-25ft jumpers. Nothing going to the basket is ever easy with this team (or rarely).
agree with this. new coach and take the 19 million we give to Gay and give it to someone that deserves it and we are a much better team.
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:54 PM   #507 (permalink)
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I'm all for tanking as I've made clear, but not at the expense of Val's development. Casey is going to ruin him. The decision to play a shooter over him came completely out of left field. Novak didnt even play in the first 3 quarters. His coaching is just mind numbingly bad. He never makes the other team adjust to what we're doing. Val was having a huge game in the 1st qtr, and once again, got almost no touches the rest of the game, and gets benched in the 4th/0T despite POR going super small and us dominating the paint.

This team is so painful to watch between our absolutely dreadful disgusting offence, and Caseys horrible coaching and mismanagement of our most prized player. It's infuriating.
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Old 11-17-2013, 10:39 PM   #508 (permalink)
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I'm all for tanking as I've made clear, but not at the expense of Val's development. Casey is going to ruin him. The decision to play a shooter over him came completely out of left field. Novak didnt even play in the first 3 quarters. His coaching is just mind numbingly bad. He never makes the other team adjust to what we're doing. Val was having a huge game in the 1st qtr, and once again, got almost no touches the rest of the game, and gets benched in the 4th/0T despite POR going super small and us dominating the paint.

This team is so painful to watch between our absolutely dreadful disgusting offence, and Caseys horrible coaching and mismanagement of our most prized player. It's infuriating.
I agree. We can much more easily tank if we fire him and let an interim head coach coach the rest of the way. It would be even easier at that point if we blow it up. Believe it or not, I'm pretty sure that Casey is really trying to win. As bad a as coach he is, I still trust someone who is trying to tank more than an idiot who can't win but tries anyway at the expense of the teams future.
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Old 11-17-2013, 10:54 PM   #509 (permalink)
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Fuck that, he's a fossil!
A fossil with a system and who doesn't take crap from players who don't run the system something both Demar and Rudy could benefit from
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:03 PM   #510 (permalink)
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He's trying to win or he is trying to tank make up your mind. Either way he fails at both no reason to commend him at all.
Wat??? Omg ... Stick to running the city Rob.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:06 PM   #511 (permalink)
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A fossil with a system and who doesn't take crap from players who don't run the system something both Demar and Rudy could benefit from
Does he have a ring?
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:16 PM   #512 (permalink)
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Does he have a ring?
C'mon do Ewing, Barkley, Karl have rings?? All of whom we're great at what they did and probably many others who I didn't mention. Not only tha,we need a coach that has a definite culture to develop this team the right way, he may not be the one who ultimately gets it done but he'll point it in the right direction and before anyone wins their first they have zero even Phil Jackson.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:21 PM   #513 (permalink)
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Not to mention Utah, wasn't über talented when they we're running the West for so many years but with his system they managed to do it for a while
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:03 PM   #514 (permalink)
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Not to mention Utah, wasn't über talented when they we're running the West for so many years but with his system they managed to do it for a while
This may be the dumbest thing anyone has ever wriitten in this forum.

Try telling Karl Malone he wasn't talented. And John Stockton. All time assist leader did it with mirrors. Jeff Hornacek, lucky to be in the NBA.

Malone, Stockton? Journeymen, Only way they'll get to the Hall of Fame will be by buying tickets.
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:13 PM   #515 (permalink)
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They need a coach who knows how to win. You can't develop culture if you're coach doesn't know how to win basketball games. Their needs to be some results that come with the hard work.
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:20 PM   #516 (permalink)
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They need a coach who knows how to win. You can't develop culture if you're coach doesn't know how to win basketball games. Their needs to be some results that come with the hard work.
How long was Casey in Dallas? They won a ring.....being around that environment and good HC's you would think he would know about winning.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:40 PM   #517 (permalink)
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They need a coach who knows how to win. You can't develop culture if you're coach doesn't know how to win basketball games. Their needs to be some results that come with the hard work.
What does this entail exactly? I thought all coaches are hired because people think they can win. I mean that is their job after all, to win games. Hard work alone is not going to get you wins. Casey works hard, I've heard plenty of that, yet he's the worst head coach the NBA.

It's not easy to bring in successful coaches. Personally I value intelligence over everything else. That's why I loved the Brad Stevens hiring in Boston. Coaches who really understand basketball, that's a better description than coaches who know how to win. Yet still, I don't think it's always so easy to identify.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:54 PM   #518 (permalink)
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So far I'm not impressed with how Casey is coaching the team. Obviously, he's a defense minded coach, but the Raptors need to improve their offense if they want to win games. In terms of coaching, I don't see Casey returning to the Raptors after this season. Keep in mind that Vinny Del Negro and Stan Van Gundy are available. One of these coaches will have a better chance winning games and help the team go deep in the playoffs.

As for the players, I think MU is better off trading Kyle Lowry for a point guard that can actually pass the ball and score on the inside instead of shooting 3's like crazy. The Raptors need a PG that can distribute the ball to Demar and Rudy and create plays for JV. Perhaps JJ Barea, Luke Ridnour or Jameer Nelson.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:14 PM   #519 (permalink)
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What does this entail exactly? I thought all coaches are hired because people think they can win. I mean that is their job after all, to win games. Hard work alone is not going to get you wins. Casey works hard, I've heard plenty of that, yet he's the worst head coach the NBA.

It's not easy to bring in successful coaches. Personally I value intelligence over everything else. That's why I loved the Brad Stevens hiring in Boston. Coaches who really understand basketball, that's a better description than coaches who know how to win. Yet still, I don't think it's always so easy to identify.
Casey was brought in because Collangelo didn't have very many options after signalling to the coaching community that he's a dictator-GM.

There is a game being played by the coaches, and there is a talent in it. I don't know if Casey or Stevens are intelligent, they're both NBA basketball coaches, I just know that Casey often has me scratching my head in wonder.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:32 PM   #520 (permalink)
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Please tell me this Nets game is the last straw...PLEASE. DO SOMETHING.
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