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Ball Don't Lie 05-22-2014 05:34 PM

Official Draft Thread: Toronto Raptors pick 20th, 37th, 59th
 
The draft takes place on June 26th, at 8:00 PM. I figured I'd make a thread to keep all Raptors draft related news in.

Who do you want us to draft? Who should we be looking at?

Draft time is always a very exciting time around the NBA, so let's begin the discussion now with the pre draft combines taking place, and the anticipation building.

Gurk 05-22-2014 05:58 PM

I have one hope and that is for LaVine to drop to us. He is crazy athlethic and if he can transition into the PG position the NBA he can be really good with his explosiveness.

niggles 05-22-2014 06:05 PM

Intrigued by a couple of players- Clint Capela and Thanasis Antetekoumpo.

KoolAid 05-22-2014 06:29 PM

Ehh IMO Giannis' bro is not as near as good a prospect as him.

If we could snatch Gordon, Lavine, or Ennis (some sites have them going pretty low), I'd be happy.

niggles 05-22-2014 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolAid (Post 899135)
Ehh IMO Giannis' bro is not as near as good a prospect as him.

If we could snatch Gordon, Lavine, or Ennis (some sites have them going pretty low), I'd be happy.

Probably true, but he's a better defender and a true SF and fits with our needs.

jeffb 05-22-2014 06:51 PM

Any of:

E. Payton
Z. Lavine
J. Young
A. Payne
TJ Warren


If they drop then maybe: Stauskas, Ennis, Harris

Ball Don't Lie 05-22-2014 07:21 PM

I'd love to see Ennis drop to us, and have Lowry mentor him for the next 3 years until he's ready to take over. That way we can focus on improving in other areas, plus I think him and Lowry would work well together much like Vasquez and Lowry worked because of Ennis' ball handling ability and unselfishness. Lowry could still play the 2 in that lineup, and not have to be relied upon every second of the game that he's in to be the playmaker.

That's not to say I don't like Vasquez, because he was very good for us in the 2nd half of the year, but I think getting Ennis would be a real upgrade, maybe not next year, but as soon as year 2 or 3.

The only issue is that Chicago has 2 picks ahead of us, because outside of them, it's hard to see some of the other teams before us taking Tyler.

I think Stauskas will be gone before 14th unfortunately. His work ethic and his drive to become more than just a shooter was on full display last year, as he improved a ton, stepping into being the primary perimeter player on his team. He's going to be an awesome fit on a winning team one day, and I hope he goes to a good organization that develops his skillset, and doesn't just turn him into a spot up player who goes by the wasteside until he becomes a free agent.

Ball Don't Lie 05-22-2014 07:23 PM

Also, Payne would be a steal if he dropped to 20. He's going to be a very solid pro, and at worst, will be the 1st big off of the bench for a team IMO. Stretch bigs who are tough and can also play inside are at a premium nowadays and he fits the bill. He'll be coveted around the NBA in a few years IMO.

jeffb 05-22-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ball Don't Lie (Post 899142)
Also, Payne would be a steal if he dropped to 20. He's going to be a very solid pro, and at worst, will be the 1st big off of the bench for a team IMO. Stretch bigs who are tough and can also play inside are at a premium nowadays and he fits the bill. He'll be coveted around the NBA in a few years IMO.

Draft Express has us taking Payne and NBA.net has Payne at #24. Not that these mock drafts are all that reliable but I could see him going 16-early 20's

omar36 05-22-2014 07:44 PM

Raps could get thannis at 37 and hopefully get Ennis at 20th.

Beans 05-22-2014 08:14 PM

What ever happened to Tomislav Zubcic?

xplode 05-22-2014 08:35 PM

#20 Payne, Stauskus (if he drop)
#37 Jarnell Stokes, Inglis, really like Stokes I think his the guy that will surprise everybody his stock is rising, I will not be surprise if we take him at 20 that move will surprise a lot of people maybe if Masai thinks we could get Inglis @37 then this will make sense
#59 ejim or bachynski or powell

jeffb 05-22-2014 08:42 PM

What are everyone's thoughts on Glen Robinson III?

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Strengths: Tremendously athletic small forward who plays with a lot of energy A great above-the-rim offensive player, Robinson is on the receiving end of many a lob pass Ambidextrous. Can drive either direction with either hand ... Finishes strong at the basket, as well ... Good NBA body, standing 6'6" with a solid frame and a 6'9" wingspan ... Good at probing the defense for holes and finding a driving lane to the basket ... Runs the floor well and can be a terror in transition ... Good lateral quickness and long arms makes him a solid perimeter defender ... Attacks the offensive glass and scores on a number of putbacks and second-chance tip-ins ... Has great defensive instincts which, along with his long arms, allow him to jump the passing lane and take the ball the other way for an easy finish ... Solid shooter from midrange. Shot 49% overall, which is a testament to his efficiency and patience on offense ... Doesn't force things on offense, but when he chooses to attack, he does it with aggression and commitment ... Good free throw shooter. Shot 76% this season. Appears to be a better shooter than his numbers showed based on his form and shooting in practices ... Played for a pair of Michigan teams that made deep runs in the tournament

Weaknesses: Can sometimes be too passive on offense ... Often seemed content to play a secondary role to Nik Stauskas and Mitch McGary (and even Caris LaVert) while at Michigan ... Decent, but not great outside shooter ... Needs to gain consistency to shoot from behind the arc at an NBA level ... Doesn't always get his feet set when shooting from distance ... Shot 31% from 3 this season. An unexpectedly low number considering his shooting ability ... Robinson is still maturing as a player. He's only 20 years old and often has the mental lapses or losses of concentration that come with that ... For being such a tenacious offensive rebounder, Robinson doesn't exert the same effort on the defensive glass. Averaged only 3 defensive boards per game this season ... Often needs others to set him up to score Should look to tighten loose handle. Needs to protect the ball better when it's in his hands ... Can often get overmatched and bullied by bigger forwards, both on the perimeter and inside, but doesn't have the quickness to play the 2 ... Has a poor rate of drawing fouls. Averaged little more than 3 free throw attempts per game this season ... Sometimes he just needs to focus more on making the fundamentally sound play than the game-changing/highlight play ... Didn't quite make the level of improvements he was expected to make after his freshman year, though he certainly did show development ...
Glenn Robinson III | NBADraft.net

KoolAid 05-22-2014 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beans (Post 899150)
What ever happened to Tomislav Zubcic?

It might have been a custom roster but he had 90+ Potential rating in 2k13 :cookie:

dwchills 05-22-2014 09:37 PM

For me :
#20 a) Hood b) Warren c) GR III d) Payne
- big"ish" wings off the bench that can score/hopefully defend and a rotation big in Payne

#37 a) McGary b) Tavares c) Austin d) Young
-backup centres/bigs to give JV a blow

#59 a) J. Carson b) X. Thames c) D. Burton d) Bachynski
-third pg or a canadian back up centre

Or trade any of these in combo deals for Chandler/Mozgov

Windex 05-22-2014 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 899140)
Any of:

E. Payton
Z. Lavine
J. Young
A. Payne
TJ Warren


If they drop then maybe: Stauskas, Ennis, Harris


Young is a lottery pick

If you're looking for a SF to put in the starting 5 I think K.J. McDaniels is a better fit than TJ Warren. Warren is the better offensive player but McDaniels is better in transition, 3's, defense and at the foul line.
If its off the bench than McDaniels is better because the Raps need someone that can create their own offence when Lowry and DeRozan are not on the court.

DocHoliday99 05-22-2014 10:50 PM

I've really come to like the idea of Payton or Ennis - in that order but I've been a fan of Payne for awhile. My ideal is Payne and Thanasis but I'd be ok with Payton/Ennis and McGary. Some combination of the 5

dmega 05-23-2014 12:09 AM

Based on the interview with Masi and Steve Russell of the Toronto Star...
“I think we've painted the picture a little bit if we had a bigger wing, if we had a shot-blocker,” Ujiri said.

At the 20th pick the raptors could go for K.J McDaniels. He's sorta the same size as TRoss and DD, but plays bigger / more aggressive imho.

He averaged these raw stats this season:
17.1 pts / 45.9fg% / 30.4 3pt% / 84.2ft% / 7.1 reb / 1.1 stls / and 2.8 blks in 33.7mins.

He has warts like everyone else at this range but his immediate skill set he can bring to the Raptors fits the bill. Defensive role player on the wing. His rebounding and block shots would complement the other starting 5 while his shooting is not ideal.

Masi also stated he's looking to keep Kyle, Patterson, Vasques and De Colo. Assuming these players do return it makes sense for Masi to draft the best possible small forward or center as these positions lack good depth. Problem is I don't see any good centers at this range.

DanH 05-23-2014 08:12 AM

If Payne or Ennis slip, either would be a good get, and proof that BPA approach is taken (as PF and PG are our two deepest positions).

Assuming both are gone, Payton at PG or McDaniels at SF are my two picks. Both have potential for elite defense, and play well within a team concept.

At 37, Inglis is the one guy who's caught my eye, but I haven't done as much 2nd round thinking yet. At 59 pretty much a crapshoot.

dmega 05-23-2014 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanH (Post 899182)
If Payne or Ennis slip, either would be a good get, and proof that BPA approach is taken (as PF and PG are our two deepest positions).

Assuming both are gone, Payton at PG or McDaniels at SF are my two picks. Both have potential for elite defense, and play well within a team concept.

At 37, Inglis is the one guy who's caught my eye, but I haven't done as much 2nd round thinking yet. At 59 pretty much a crapshoot.

If a point guard is taken ala Ennis that would probably mean one of the raptors point guards are not returning. In truth Ennis would be cool to have as a third string guy and would hate to lose either Lowry or Vasques.

If a power forward is drafted that might signal PP or TH may not return.

Or it might not mean anything at all either as Masi could build depth so he can make trades.


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