Official Draft Thread: Toronto Raptors pick 20th, 37th, 59th - Page 2
Old 05-23-2014, 01:02 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If a point guard is taken ala Ennis that would probably mean one of the Raptors point guards are not returning. In truth Ennis would be cool to have as a third string guy and would hate to lose either Lowry or Vasques.

If a power forward is drafted that might signal PP or TH may not return.

Or it might not mean anything at all either as Masi could build depth so he can make trades.
TH should be gone regardless, and if a PG is drafted you just let de Colo go. Or not, as de Colo and Vasquez can both play the 2 as well.
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20, 37 and 59 are nothing but projects...and the last thing the Raptors need now are projects

use all of these picks in trades....please
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TH should be gone regardless, and if a PG is drafted you just let de Colo go. Or not, as de Colo and Vasquez can both play the 2 as well.
If a PG is drafted you would think Vasquez is a goner, no? Why draft a PG and have him be the 3rd PG?

Lowry/ Ennis/ De Colo

^ Just and example, if we pick a PG
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20, 37 and 59 are nothing but projects...and the last thing the Raptors need now are projects

use all of these picks in trades....please
#20 is likely more than a project. I do think that 1 or two of the picks will be dealt. The last thing we need is three rookies right now.
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Old 05-23-2014, 01:36 PM   #25 (permalink)
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If a PG is drafted you would think Vasquez is a goner, no? Why draft a PG and have him be the 3rd PG?

Lowry/ Ennis/ De Colo

^ Just and example, if we pick a PG
I'd fully expect de Colo to be gone, Vasquez to play backup and to eventually (read: deadline) be moved for assets and clear room for Ennis to move up in the rotation. Ujiri is an assets-management guy.
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#20 is likely more than a project. I do think that 1 or two of the picks will be dealt. The last thing we need is three rookies right now.
Just because we don't want to play 3 rookies doesn't mean we don't use all 3 picks. If you don't have room in the rotation, you can always draft-and-stash. Especially with that 59 pick - those typically end up going overseas for a few years and eventually can be useful assets.
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I would like to see MU try to acquire the Kings pick at the 8th slot as they are apparently looking to move the pick. We don't have much to offer though, which is the only problem. If we package all our picks to move up a few spots in the draft I would be happy.

Could also look to see if Philly would deal the 10th for our picks. The same could be said for Phoenix at 14 and Chicago at 16.

When discussing trades with other teams we could dangle our 3 picks with Psycho T and possibly De Colo by a sign-and-trade. If we could move Hayes or Fields with them that would be great, but I don't see teams moving down in the draft and taking back a decent sized 1yr contract in Field or Hayes unless they get to unload a multi-year contract player on us.

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Old 05-23-2014, 04:30 PM   #28 (permalink)
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#20 is likely more than a project. I do think that 1 or two of the picks will be dealt. The last thing we need is three rookies right now.
just you have picks, doenst mean they will be signed. i doubt philly will be signing all 7 of their draft picks
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I would like to see MU try to acquire the Kings pick at the 8th slot as they are apparently looking to move the pick. We don't have much to offer though, which is the only problem. If we package all our picks to move up a few spots in the draft I would be happy.

Could also look to see if Philly would deal the 10th for our picks. The same could be said for Phoenix at 14 and Chicago at 16.

When discussing trades with other teams we could dangle our 3 picks with Psycho T and possibly De Colo by a sign-and-trade. If we could move Hayes or Fields with them that would be great, but I don't see teams moving down in the draft and taking back a decent sized 1yr contract in Field or Hayes unless they get to unload a multi-year contract player on us.
It's an interesting idea though TH or De Colo would have to agree to go to the destination team. I wouldn't mind keeping TH - every team needs an agitator.

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It's an interesting idea though TH or De Colo would have to agree to go to the destination team. I wouldn't mind keeping TH - every team needs an agitator.
they don't have to agree. This is the NBA, not soccer.
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Old 05-23-2014, 06:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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they don't have to agree. This is the NBA, not soccer.
Thanks tips.

Thought they were expiring but I see one is unguaranteed and the other is QO. Id prefer to keep DeColo which will happen and as for TH, guess if someone wants to pay him the 3.3 mil for next year as an expiring though I thought there was a rule about picking up an option then waiting a period of time.
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I have full confidence that Lowry/DeColo/2Pat will be resigned. Fields and Hayes are expiring and I wish Novak were too.

I didn't know much about Capela....I have to agree with Niggles, he's an interesting player. The more I read and the more I see video the more I like him as much as I like Payne - more of a banger in the paint, much more explosive, not as smart at times but the physical tools he has ....wow....6-11" with a 7-4.5" wingspan and 3 years younger than Payne. I'd be happy with either. I'm not as much for Ennis as I would prefer Payton but I doubt he drops. I don't believe MU would draft a pg anyways unless its for a trade. I can see Payne/Thanasis though Payne might not drop and if he doesn't Capela is right in there as a player I would like to see. My dark horse is still McGary. Lots of options but I agree with Jeffb, the bigger moves will most likely be next summer - though one never knows

KLow/DeColo
TRoss/Vazquez/Fields
DD/Novak
Amir/2Pat
JV/Hayes

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they don't have to agree. This is the NBA, not soccer.
True of Hansbrough, not of de Colo. De Colo is a free agent.
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True of Hansbrough, not of de Colo. De Colo is a free agent.
ah my bad. thought he was with us for another couple years. Thanks
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What I don't understand is why ppl think that if we draft a certain player in a loaded position, we assume that we have to trade or not resign a central player on the team. If ennis slips to us and MU bites, I still see him sticking with GV as the first backcourt player off the bench where ennis would be a third stringer ATM

Evaluate the situation, wait to see how the chemistry of the team works out during the season, and make necessary changes along the way, be it trading GV.Ennis is a big unknown as a rookie, sign GV to a friendly deal decide afterward.

Not to mention, shall we not forget Casey's treatment of rookies. I don't see a rookie taking a central role In this team right away, let alone the backup pg spot
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Not to mention, shall we not forget Casey's treatment of rookies. I don't see a rookie taking a central role In this team right away, let alone the backup pg spot
MU stated he's looking to add pieces that can contribute right away off the bench but I never got the impression he's looking at pgs. As many have said here though, take BPA - but in the 20's, seems many players can be inter changeable depending on the direction MU decides to take. I would think some sort of commitment before the draft from KL and GV would be necessary to know which way to go. Though GV is mu's home boy
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I think MU will try to keep vasquez and PP regardless of who we draft, provided the price is right. Because, at the right price, they are valuable assets that can always be used in trades down the road.
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I really like payne too, his game is so complete,all he needs is a good teacher and maybe learn to conserve his energy more.
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Old 05-24-2014, 02:43 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I think MU will try to keep vasquez and PP regardless of who we draft, provided the price is right. Because, at the right price, they are valuable assets that can always be used in trades down the road.
Yep yep yep. I could see him extending this logic to de Colo as well. Keep, then convert to assets.
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