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Old 05-17-2011, 08:29 PM   #41 (permalink)
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5 yrs and we went nowhere. so we're going to give him another 2
i don't understand the love he gets here, there are better GM candidates available.
in a real bball town he would of been fired a few seasons ago for the mediocrity he continues to bestow upon our team.

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Old 05-17-2011, 08:32 PM   #42 (permalink)
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10 yrs and we went nowhere. so we're going to give him another 2
i don't understand the love he gets here, there are better GM candidates available.
in a real bball town he would of been fired a few seasons ago for the mediocrity he continues to bestow upon our team.
10yrs??

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Old 05-17-2011, 09:20 PM   #43 (permalink)
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glad that this is over

here's a prediction:

next year at this time, when the raps end up with 20 wins or so, the same posters who are loving this deal are going to be calling for his head...
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:19 AM   #44 (permalink)
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glad that this is over

here's a prediction:

next year at this time, when the raps end up with 20 wins or so, the same posters who are loving this deal are going to be calling for his head...
i think that will be true.

but i'm glad at least thi situation is over.
let's see what BC has in his hat to take care this off season of business.

i can see him try to get the miny pick for our 5th and another piece.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:23 AM   #45 (permalink)
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10 yrs and we went nowhere. so we're going to give him another 2
i don't understand the love he gets here, there are better GM candidates available.
in a real bball town he would of been fired a few seasons ago for the mediocrity he continues to bestow upon our team.
reaalyy ?
how many team makes money in the nba right now ? raps are for sure.
si if the BC job is to take care of the buisness part, i think he has done that.
for the winning part, i blame him with some mega trade or moves that don't allow us to poroper us to be play-offs ontender.
but last season, i think we can have been in the play-offs, and that would have change nothing
so let's face it, BC is maybe not the best GM available, but at least his new extension give us a stability.
and i seems embracing the youngh plan, so that seems alright to me, especially with his ability to make some good moves to compensate his bad ones.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:35 AM   #46 (permalink)
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BC is one of the better G.M's in the league, when we lost Bosh we had to start the rebuild by trading away Turk etc... it was like starting over

building around Bosh we averaged 40 wins a season, made the playoffs twice, and shouldn't have missed last year

now realizing htat building around Bosh from the start was a mistake, i think BC deserves his 2 year extention, he was trying to do the impossible build a winning team around bosh,

the two favorite Raptors right now are Davis and Demar, both are late lottery picks and both appear to be amongst the top of there class

this team is on the way up, lets see what he can do in two years, if where not successful then firing him will be deserved

in BC time he never has hired his own coach, Sam Mitchell was here previously, and Triano was a long time canadian assistant that was being groomed to eventually take over by MLSE

I would at prefer BC to get a chance at hiring a new coach

you also have to remember we have the second youngest team in the NBA, and adding another young player to it unless we move the pick for a experienced vet

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Old 05-18-2011, 02:19 PM   #47 (permalink)
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In the real world, if a manager of a company in a competitive landscape has continually & easily let go of quality assets w/nothing of substance or quality rationale in return, going against all NBA and real-world financial & asset management principles; has said nothing but platitudes when pressed about his poor performance over the past 5yrs; has done little to nothing to cater to the coach's efficient system (re: Reggie Evans & Joey Dorsey do not fit in Coach Triano's Flex, and Coach w/Jose runs one of the most efficient offenses in the league, even w/o the 3pt shot a feature b/c of bad mgmt of personnel & other bullshit); and has worthy replacements who deserve a shot (Maurizio Gherardini, Wayne Embry, Jim Kelly), well all real-world rationale says that Bryan should've been fully and ignominiously canned.

But other forces are at work. Enjoy mediocrity, or more tanking. You all can justify this move all you damn well want, but it still makes no real world management sense.

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Old 05-18-2011, 03:08 PM   #48 (permalink)
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In the real world, if a manager of a company in a competitive landscape has continually & easily let go of quality assets w/nothing of substance or quality rationale in return, going against all NBA and real-world financial & asset management principles; has said nothing but platitudes when pressed about his poor performance over the past 5yrs; has done little to nothing to cater to the coach's efficient system (re: Reggie Evans & Joey Dorsey do not fit in Coach Triano's Flex, and Coach w/Jose runs one of the most efficient offenses in the league, even w/o the 3pt shot a feature b/c of bad mgmt of personnel & other bullshit); and has worthy replacements who deserve a shot (Maurizio Gherardini, Wayne Embry, Jim Kelly), well all real-world rationale says that Bryan should've been fully and ignominiously canned.

But other forces are at work. Enjoy mediocrity, or more tanking. You all can justify this move all you damn well want, but it still makes no real world management sense.
Professional sports isn't the real world, at least not as I see it. The power structure is ass backwards in sports and there isn't anything like it in any other industry. Where else would you see executives and organizational decision makers being paid a fraction of what the employees manufacturing the actual product earn? Point being, the logic that applies to your typical public corporation isn't necessarily going to be in play in a pro sports franchise. Great move IMO.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:16 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I think a long and hard look at Rick Adelman can certainly get his last chance off to the right start.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:10 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Professional sports isn't the real world, at least not as I see it. The power structure is ass backwards in sports and there isn't anything like it in any other industry. Where else would you see executives and organizational decision makers being paid a fraction of what the employees manufacturing the actual product earn? Point being, the logic that applies to your typical public corporation isn't necessarily going to be in play in a pro sports franchise. Great move IMO.
Excellent observation Thought (capitalizing your username, so to not confuse it w/the noun!). But its only true to a certain degree, as at the same time, the players SHOULD be making more coin than execs in the NBA - this unlike 'the real world.'

However, I have to disagree w/you on your point the fuckery standards in the NBA being unique: American politics and the music industry's system are both predicated on fucked up things, despite the illusions that show the contrary.

But getting back to the subject of Bryan's 'extension,' I've had time today to do a quick study on each team's GM history in the past 21yrs. And what I've seen is that in the past 21yrs (1990-91, where Jordan won his 1st title, to now), Bryan is the only GM in the entire NBA of the past 21yrs who has fucked over his team as hard as he's fucked us up in his 5yrs thus far with us; and then gotten 'extended.' This is something worth thinking about.

I've already said there is no 'real world' merit to extending Bryan, and w/what I've studied, there is no NBA merit to extending Bryan either; especially with the healthy alternatives at the ready (especially again when you consider our playoff years under Bryan were the result of Maurizio's work - not Bryan's).

It's an excellent tool to find all his collusion partners, though!
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:45 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Studied?

What standards did you use to come to the conclusion that he's "fucked over" us more then any other GM in the last 20yrs has their respective teams? Pretty subjective comment.

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Old 05-19-2011, 10:12 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Fucked up his team?

Would you want David Kahn instead?
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:10 PM   #53 (permalink)
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@ Jeffb,

I've already stated my position a few times more thoroughly in a number of threads: I did in posts #51, #67, #71, & #88 here:
Do you want Bryan Colangelo back next season?

Post #115 in this thread:
Does anyone miss Chris Bosh

Posts #39 & #45 in this thread (where I responded to you, mate! :
Colangelo the Con Artist

@ Ex2k

David Khan has displayed incompetency (well, other than the fact that he took Micheal Beasley and Bryan didn't), and I'm not the type to give respect to GM's who 'tank.' I believe Bryan's moves are deliberate downgrades in efforts of collusion and under the table rewards, as I've stated many times before.
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:32 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Excellent observation Thought (capitalizing your username, so to not confuse it w/the noun!). But its only true to a certain degree, as at the same time, the players SHOULD be making more coin than execs in the NBA - this unlike 'the real world.'
You really didn't get it.

As for the rest.. ridic... and 2 words ... Don Nelson (yes as a coach).
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:03 AM   #55 (permalink)
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10yrs??

my fault i ment 5 yrs. i still don't understand why everyone loves him so much on this forum. hes over rated and not that good of a GM.

i'll let the next 5 yrs do the speaking for me. i am confident he will not build us into a contender even if he is given a full 5-6 yrs again to do it. his ability to draft quality players, trade for quality players, or not trade away draft picks are poor. i.e. bayless, ajinca, JO, etc.

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