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Old 06-20-2011, 09:05 PM   #101 (permalink)
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ughhh, just read this about Biyombo :
While this is true, we wouldn't be selecting him for his offensive fluidity. Biyombo gets after it on the other end, blocking shots and rebounding to the point of exhaustion. And he runs the floor very well. He'll never be a potent scorer, but neither was Ben Wallace.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:08 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I like Val. This guy looks like a annoying guy to play against...

He's like Mcgee with the length/speed/athleticism but seems to have a little more polish to him offensively.

Apparently his buyout has been reach or is close but he's gonna have to miss all of next year.
I like the McGee comparison. Both are long, athletic centers. McGee probably has a bit of an upper hand on the defensive side, but offensively Val is pretty polished as you said.

And even if we had to wait another year for him, I'd still consider picking. Might help kick-off the Toronto Raptors tank of 2011/2012.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:09 PM   #103 (permalink)
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yes jeff...thats whats hes good at....defense and rebounding...why wouldnt he help immediately?
I agree. He's very aware on the court and already has a mature body. I don't think he'll struggle with adapting to the speed of the game like so many young bigs do. It's not like he's coming directly from the jungles of the Congo. He led one of the premier international leagues in shot blocking.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:22 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Who the eff cares if Bismack can't score right now? We don't need him to score right now. Reggie Evans is an effective player but could he ever score? No. We never fed the ball to Evans because we didn't need to + he couldn't do anything with it. Ben Wallace is another guy who could never produce on offense, yet he was still very effective. I really don't care if Bismack can't produce offensively, he is only 18 and has a ton of time to work on that if he really wants to. We are drafting him based on his defense, something this team needs the most. If we needed offense then we may as well stick with Bargnani, but wake up people that got us nowhere.

With Dwayne Casey we really need a defensive anchor playing the center, and I think this team would be pretty damn good.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:30 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Bingo! Exactly what i'm talking about. Seriously, if we pick him with the #5 i'll be very disapointed. But, gotta say that sadly it wouldn't shock me.
Why, cause Colangelo has wasted that many lottery selections?
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:37 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Why, cause Colangelo has wasted that many lottery selections?
No, because Biyombo IMO has no business going #5. And i won't be convinced otherwise.
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:09 PM   #107 (permalink)
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No, because Biyombo IMO has no business going #5. And i won't be convinced otherwise.
Aren't you always saying you want defense? Bismack is the best defensive player in this draft with incredible upside, yet you do not want him here...
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Aren't you always saying you want defense? Bismack is the best defensive player in this draft with incredible upside, yet you do not want him here...
How much have you seen him play? How long have you known about him? He's 18yrs old, a project, too short to be an NBA Center at 6'7''- 6'8''. Sorry but i don't think we should take him at #5. If we were to trade for another pick around #8 then i wouldn't have a problem, but i wouldn't our ONE pick on him. And who has ever said he's the best defender in the draft?
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is ben wallace to short to be an nba centre too jeff? he has a 7'7" wingspan. if he had a massive forehead, would that make a difference?
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is ben wallace to short to be an nba centre too jeff? he has a 7'7" wingspan. if he had a massive forehead, would that make a difference?
Oh well then, when you put it that way.
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:33 PM   #111 (permalink)
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How much have you seen him play? How long have you known about him? He's 18yrs old, a project, too short to be an NBA Center at 6'7''- 6'8''. Sorry but i don't think we should take him at #5. If we were to trade for another pick around #8 then i wouldn't have a problem, but i wouldn't our ONE pick on him. And who has ever said he's the best defender in the draft?
Ben Wallace - 6'9"
Bismack Biyombo - 6'9"

Defense is about effort. You don't have to be taller then the player your defending to be a good defender.

Name one player who is a better defender in this draft....
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How much have you seen him play? How long have you known about him? He's 18yrs old, a project, too short to be an NBA Center at 6'7''- 6'8''. Sorry but i don't think we should take him at #5. If we were to trade for another pick around #8 then i wouldn't have a problem, but i wouldn't our ONE pick on him. And who has ever said he's the best defender in the draft?
Too short? Like Trane said, he has a 7'7'' wingspan. This guy has a motor that never stops, he does everything you can possibly want on the defensive end. With a guy like Casey coaching him it'll be great for his development as a defensive player. Height doesn't mean anything especially if you have a 7'7'' wingspan. If you think being 7 feet makes you automatically great then you are mistaken. Bismack would torch Bargnani in the paint. I have never seen Bargnani hustle defensively in his entire career, and Bismack is doing it at 18. Hating Bismack is nonsensical as he can be an incredible player in this league.
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:44 PM   #113 (permalink)
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TORONTO -- The Toronto Raptors have reached an agreement in principle to hire Dallas assistant Dwane Casey as their new head coach, according to a report on ESPN.com.

Citing anonymous sources, ESPN reported that Casey will be hired barring an unforeseen snag, and said he was already in New York on Monday observing the Raptors' private pre-draft workout of lottery hopeful Bismack Biyombo.

Reports say an official announcement on Casey's hiring could come as early as Tuesday.

Casey, 54, would succeed Jay Triano, who was reassigned earlier this month. The Raptors are coming off a disappointing 22-60 campaign and have the fifth overall pick in Thursday's NBA draft.
Report: Raptors reach agreement in principle with Casey
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is ben wallace to short to be an nba centre too jeff? he has a 7'7" wingspan. if he had a massive forehead, would that make a difference?
No.

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Old 06-20-2011, 11:32 PM   #115 (permalink)
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music to my ears. casey could be the best thing that's happened to bargs. i still have faith in that big lug. he is only 25.
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Old 06-20-2011, 11:38 PM   #116 (permalink)
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How much have you seen him play? How long have you known about him? He's 18yrs old, a project, too short to be an NBA Center at 6'7''- 6'8''. Sorry but i don't think we should take him at #5. If we were to trade for another pick around #8 then i wouldn't have a problem, but i wouldn't our ONE pick on him. And who has ever said he's the best defender in the draft?
Like I said in the other thread when you called him short, he's not. He has the longest wingspan in the NBA (I believe, if not, he's top 2) and he has the tallest standing reach in the NBA (9ft 3" (or 4")). On top of that he is EXTREMELY explosive. As other have said his measurables are through the roof and are one of the best of all time.

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im all for the defense, don't get me wrong. but kemba is going to end up the best PG in this draft. he is a star in the making, of course he is short but look at AI. He's short but was a deadly scores (not so much recent days) but Kemba had better credentials than AI before AI entered NBA.

#5 at Kemba or else I'll be a very very very upset raptor fan. Center is needed, but we should trade Bargs for that, or trade for a pick to pick up Bismack. We've given so much time for Bargs and he has not once met our expectations defensively.
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im all for the defense, don't get me wrong. but kemba is going to end up the best PG in this draft. he is a star in the making, of course he is short but look at AI. He's short but was a deadly scores (not so much recent days) but Kemba had better credentials than AI before AI entered NBA.

#5 at Kemba or else I'll be a very very very upset raptor fan. Center is needed, but we should trade Bargs for that, or trade for a pick to pick up Bismack. We've given so much time for Bargs and he has not once met our expectations defensively.
I hope you're not referring to the AI I'm assuming you are.... that would just be foolish. Better credentials? Meaning winning the tournament? AI tore it up at Georgetown.... Kemba won't come close to matching what AI was as a player.

I do think he'd be a great pick for us though.
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Old 06-21-2011, 01:30 AM   #119 (permalink)
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buyombo is not that good
We have Alabi, same talent level
...but taller
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Old 06-21-2011, 01:31 AM   #120 (permalink)
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buyombo is not that good
We have Alabi, same talent level
...but taller
Same talent level? If that was the case then Alabi wouldn't of gotten drafted in the 2nd round.
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