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Old 06-26-2014, 10:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The biggest problem with this pick is that

1) We've never heard of him
2) It'll be 2-3yrs before we even get a glimpse

There has to be cap implications with this pick. Now we can take non guaranteed players with our second round picks. Disapointing!
I've never heard of him either, but after doing research it seems like it could be a major steal. 7'7 wingspan at 6'8? That is crazy. Bigger wingspan than Durant. He has all the tools/talent to become a Durant-like player.

I'm not crazy about the idea we have to wait a few years before we get him, but he is raw and I don't think he'll contribute right away. A few years of seasoning will do him a lot of good.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Its a bad pick, we needed to add more talent to make a deeper playoff run, we didn't do that, we added nothing and at a best case scenario he'll be usefull in 5 years. I don't care who the dude is or how good he will be down the road. We needed immediate impact to try and be a real team for once with a real chance to win a playoff series and compete.
Compete with Lowry possibly leaving? You need to see the bigger picture. We have no franchise player and drafted the best player available (durant 2.0).

People said the same thing about JV and was freaking out over that pick, how did that turn out? Would people be happier with drafting the "sexy pick" in austin rivers? For the time being, yes. Overall, no.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Why is everyone saying we'll have to wait 4yrs? I mean, he's the same age as the greek freak.
This too. Just because the "expert" said he's two years away from being two years away, it doesn't mean that that is true.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:44 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Compete with Lowry possibly leaving? You need to see the bigger picture. We have no franchise player and drafted the best player available (durant 2.0).

People said the same thing about JV and was freaking out over that pick, how did that turn out? Would people be happier with drafting the "sexy pick" in austin rivers? For the time being, yes. Overall, no.
JV was completely different scouts had him going 1-3 had he not had the euro contract...this wasn't about a sexy pick it was about competing now. Lowry may leave but we are still fringe playoff team in the east
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:54 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I've never heard of him either, but after doing research it seems like it could be a major steal. 7'7 wingspan at 6'8? That is crazy. Bigger wingspan than Durant. He has all the tools/talent to become a Durant-like player.

I'm not crazy about the idea we have to wait a few years before we get him, but he is raw and I don't think he'll contribute right away. A few years of seasoning will do him a lot of good.
What was the wingspan of Il 1Muggo and Araujo combined? About 3 buckets , some hot sauce and 10 pitchers...
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:55 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Sorry, but I think Masai was comfortable making this pick because he knows Lowry's not leaving. Don't think he makes this pick if he knows Lowry is leaving. He would have picked a PG.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I think neither GOOD or BAD; it's like we HAVE to have an opinion. I'm fine to let this one sit, and see what happens here. I trust Masai's drafting skills. I was a little dumbfounded because it was an unknown name, but I don't think I (/we) have to have an immediate opinion.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Sorry, but I think Masai was comfortable making this pick because he knows Lowry's not leaving. Don't think he makes this pick if he knows Lowry is leaving. He would have picked a PG.
Unless he didn't like the PG's left. No point in picking a PG if you don't like them.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:00 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I voted good. For these reasons:

A) I trust Masai above all else in the draft.
B) Seems the Spurs or another team would have taken him before 37, so he was on NBA radars, just not the guys who do the mocks. Shows you the value of the mocks...
C) He seems like a home run swing - a player who could be terrible or never come over, or could potentially be a game changing player. A chance at a game changer at 20 is nice, even if it is a long shot.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:13 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I've never heard of him either, but after doing research it seems like it could be a major steal. 7'7 wingspan at 6'8? That is crazy. Bigger wingspan than Durant. He has all the tools/talent to become a Durant-like player.

I'm not crazy about the idea we have to wait a few years before we get him, but he is raw and I don't think he'll contribute right away. A few years of seasoning will do him a lot of good.
Durant was a "Durante like" player when he was this guys age. This guy might someday become an nba player but not for a few years. That's the definition of a 2nd round pick....not a 20. Hoffa part two.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:22 PM   #32 (permalink)
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What baffles me the most is not the fact that he was picked, but that he was picked at 20. The possible reasons to do that:

1. For whatever reason, the Raptors didn't want to add this guaranteed salary in the foreseeable future, and so picked a guy who they know won't come over for a while.

2. They really, really liked him and espionage told them that someone else in the late first was going to pick him.

We don't know nearly enough to judge the reasons behind the pick, so the poll is ignorant to begin with.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:23 PM   #33 (permalink)
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at this point, the only thing we know he's a raw prospect who won't be coming here anytime soon. So really, the question is, was that a good or bad decison.

as a tanker, I can only agree with that approach.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:24 PM   #34 (permalink)
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What baffles me the most is not the fact that he was picked, but that he was picked at 20. The possible reasons to do that:

1. For whatever reason, the Raptors didn't want to add this guaranteed salary in the foreseeable future, and so picked a guy who they know won't come over for a while.

2. They really, really liked him and espionage told them that someone else in the late first was going to pick him.

We don't know nearly enough to judge the reasons behind the pick, so the poll is ignorant to begin with.
clearly #2, what difference would 1M do - it's not like we're projected to be serious players. Plus, you're still better off to pick the guy and add him to trades than to just throw it away.

they must have felt somebody will grab him before us.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:25 PM   #35 (permalink)
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at this point, the only thing we know he's a raw prospect who won't be coming here anytime soon. So really, the question is, was that a good or bad decison.

as a tanker, I can only agree with that approach.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:26 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I voted good. For these reasons:

A) I trust Masai above all else in the draft.
B) Seems the Spurs or another team would have taken him before 37, so he was on NBA radars, just not the guys who do the mocks. Shows you the value of the mocks...
C) He seems like a home run swing - a player who could be terrible or never come over, or could potentially be a game changing player. A chance at a game changer at 20 is nice, even if it is a long shot.
couldn't agree more with C

it's very unlikely that any player draft after #20 will be anything more than a decent starter at best. We don't need decent starters, we're choke full of them. We need stars and a 5% chance at a star is better than a 20% chance at a solid starter ...
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:27 PM   #37 (permalink)
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as long as it doesn't involve signing overpriced middle of the road guys, I couldn't care less how we call it
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:27 PM   #38 (permalink)
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What's with the obsession with wing span??
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:29 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Balassiano says Caboclo has only been playing basketball five years. Could be in Toronto soon discussing buyout. Maybe Summer League.

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Old 06-26-2014, 11:30 PM   #40 (permalink)
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What's with the obsession with wing span??
i know, who gives a shit honestly. this dude is no where near athletic as KD. just you have physical tools, doesnt mean you will turn out to be special... look at thabeet for an example
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